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It is most definitely NOT OK during spring/summer to camp just above Paradise, stay w/your original plan and stay at Cougar Rock.
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If you're asking about the actual campground, it won't be open until near the end of June, normal. The road into the campground is dependent on a couple of things, Chinook getting open that the DOT site says no sooner than June 6, and Cayuse getting open that the DOT site says 5/24 at EARLIEST. Latest I heard from numerous phone calls was that the WR Campground road had only been cleared so far to the Owyhigh Lks trailhead, its still several miles to the campground.
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Rainier website says the road into WR Campground is hopefully opening just before Memorial Day weekend, still 5-8 feet of snow on the road. Carbon side is open, but haven't seen any reports from anyone going in that side yet, its a LONG approach now with the road closed into Ipsut. Call Carbon ranger station, White River ranger station doesn't open until at least Memorial Day weekend.
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3rd-4th week in June.
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If its after October 7th, the road to White River will be closed for the season making Paradise the viable option, unless you want to add about 8-9 miles each way from Mather "Y" on 410.
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All routes on Rainier have suffered badly this year from tons of warm temps and excessive melt. This has exposed LARGE areas above 10,0000 of black, old, glacier ice that many have reported and I've experienced as somewhat bulletproof to pro. The Mowich is melted out with large amounts of exposed 50 degree+ loose scree, rock extremely prone to fall and virtually impossible to protect and the upper section hard exposed ice. This would make climbing it an effort in becoming a human bowling project with you being the pins. Last I checked with the climbing ranger staff there had been no recorded summits of the route this season and if correct no attempts given the status since at least mid July. Add to this the road closures, extended distances of approach, trail damage, and few to no potential rescuers left this late in the season, and hence the view that it might be risky to the point of ridiculous. Try calling the climbing ranger team left there and ask directly about any other advice or updates.
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About the Carbon road, the park's website as of 9/26 says, "GOOD NEWS! the road reopens on Saturday, September 22 at 8:00 a.m. to hikers and bicyclists", but at least we know a supply of body bags should be on hand for the attempt. skull
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Mowich road closes Oct 8th, Carbon only accessible by hike or bike, planning on a long walk are you?
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? Westside Road / Tahoma Creak Trail Conditions
mtngt replied to ThomasLBeaumont's topic in Mount Rainier NP
The bridge is reopen, cleared by the engineers and work completed by MRNP crews. -
Leave em home, conditions are great and compacted with little to no postholing, Interglacier is in good shape with a good track, Emmons has several options with much success.
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Park's web site says its due to open May 5th, same as road to Paradise/Nisqually entrance.
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Appears the Glacier Basin trail is now also in deep trouble maybe another year would be a good consideration? http://mountrainierconditions.blogspot.com/ on the newest trail damage discovered this last weekend.
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Everyone take a breath, news report today says main park road/nisqually entrance to open May 1 even while additional re-construction is taking place. In the meantime, the eastside is accessible for the hardy, and any wishing to do a westside route ought to simply consider taking a week's expedition via the westside road.
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The road is open assuming you want to walk in, and you could permit to climb on the west side remaining in the park for the length of time on your permit. Day use is as you've stated on Sundays
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19. I believe the road is closed, including to foot traffic.
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One could always plan a longer, more expedition-like climb now, hike the road in from the park's N boundary, in to WRCG, then into Glacier Basin, up the Emmons, or over St. Elmo's and on to Lib ridge. There used to be a time when perhaps the more hardcore would have thought this kind of attempt/process attractive.
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Same article states WR road due to open May 25th, DOT will determine opening for 410 sometime mid-April.
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Same article states WR road due to open May 25th, DOT will determine opening for 410 sometime mid-April.
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Re Carbon access, from the park's website 3/5/2007: Flooding from the Carbon River partially or completely destroyed two miles of road between the park entrance and Ipsut Creek Campground. In places, only culverts and road signs remain to remind visitors that new river channels used to be roadways. The historic Ipsut Creek Cabin was undermined when a channel of the river flowed directly beneath it. The windstorm in December toppled dozens of trees across the damaged roadway. And: The Carbon River Road will be rebuilt, at a cost of just under $1 million, to restore access to the Ipsut Creek Campground and the Carbon Glacier Trail. Work will be suspended from March 15 through August 6th to protect the endangered Northern Spotted Owl, Marbled Murrelet, and Bull Trout, which nest or spawn in the area during the summer. Meanwhile, trail crews have opened the roadway for hikers all the way to Ipsut Creek Campground. 410/WRCG: White River Road and Campground Damage to the White River Road and Campground was relatively minor. These facilities should be accessible by early June as usual, and the road to Sunrise should open in late June when snow plowing is completed.
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The road into Carbon has been deeply decimated, the trail into Ipsut and beyond in some major trouble. 410 from the N boundary to WRCG is passable, albeit indeed makes for real climb/undertaking. Much of the damage likely won't be found or fixed until into the upcoming season, but permits and passes are available to anyone desiring a commited process.
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Road to WRCG is generally not open until mid/late May,as the DOT gets 410 open. The WRCG road sustained damage in Novemeber floods, may take it longer to open depending on the park's logistics and budget.
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At least there will be a body rescue coming!
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The road at Mather Y/White River is scheduled to close October 10th for the season, connector on 410 from Crystal cutoff/N Park boundary will close as soon as DOT closes Cayuse/Chinook pass, usually happens in November.
