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good thinking Klenke, best to get the ground work out of the way early on.

I completely agree, neither of those two want to understand or investigate issues, just shout and hear themselves interrupt the guests they have invited on the show.

Click the pen after the cartoon ends... "Sharpie not included"

I see all this stuff about who drinks beer and sits aorund watching TV all day and stuff, does anyone actively participate in sports other than climbing? Lift weights? Just wondering what you all do to stay in shape.

High crude birth rates are a major effect-more than cause-of poverty, of course the idiots at the WTO can't see this, which helps leads to maintenace of status quo. "Take care of the people, and the Population will take care of itself."

Bear meat...

I was up there myself last night... it's a tricky place when crowded. Maybe he'll be able to read some good books or boarding or just rekindle/pick up a hobby that's less phyiscal.

I was looking into the Ptarmigan climbing class in Van, Wa, and was hoping to ptalk to some ptarmigans or graduates of the class.

Thanks very much to you, and the others who helped clear this up. Yeah, in terms of technical rock and ice/glacier climbing I'm a newbie. I've got qutie a bit of backpacking and scrambling experience, just looking to take my adventuring to a different level and gain new skills. I'd check out the PDX pub club sometimes, but the 21+ I'm assuming applies to said "pub" would keep me out. I'm contemplating the mazamas class this winter, but $300! ouch.

so if there aren't little cracks and fissures in the rock face, you have to drill holes and place bolts for protection?

Ok, so this sounds stupid and obvious, and whatnot, but of well. How do you actually connect your protection to rock? (stoppers, cams, hexes, other stuff I heard but don't know what it is) I mean I understand an old fashioned Piton, drive it into a crack in the rock, connect to biner/rope or with something like an ice-screw, the name explains it, but how do you protect a pitch on a rock face?

I enjoyed it, regardless of that fact that only a vew pictures were familiar to me. It's amazing what the human body is capable of accomplishing.

thanks, that's the one

I thought there wasa thread on this forum with a funny and subtle foregin ad, featuring a young woman in a "compromising" but at first normal-looking position... am I going nuts here?

Personally I think it's a bunch of balogna.. but how about you? An y good stories?

how somone so lacking in basic human interaction abilities has enough money to buy half the countries in the world I'll never know.

Here's the prelim. damage assessment for the park. http://www.nps.gov/noca/storm03/index.htm Doesn't look pretty.

The oddest movie you can commonly rent is "Eraserhead" 1977 made by David Lynch.

Oh yeah, those lakes are my favorite... The upper one is 89 feet deep! (according to the WA trail blazers webpage) Anyhow I Guess I'm just interested in the route to the top of Mcalester from the lake. I climbed up teh rock slide on the Methow Valley side to an open area/pass that looked down on Mosquito Lake, but I didn't have time to go any further up. Thanks!

Anyone climbed Mcalester mountain near South Pass? What was it like, and is it possible to traverse down to Rainbow Creek near Bowan Camp and not have to go back down to South pass and Mcalester Pass? P.S. The lakes at the base are great for swimming, but watch out for

Yeah.. all those "useless" sherpas (Tenzing who?) certainly did nothing to enable the climbing of the Himalayas.

Hi I've done quite a bit of off trail backpacking and summit scrambles, but I don't have much real experience on roped-up climbs and galcier travel. For someone wanting to climb peaks like Hood and Adams as well as a bunch of the mountains in the North cascades, would the climbing classes ($250!) offered by the Mazamas be a good thing to get into? Or if I just went on some basic climbs with friends and picked up techniques slowly could I just gain experience that way? Thanks much for your input!

What is one (or several) of your favorite books about mountains and mountain climbing? I would have to say Starlight and Storm by Gaston Rebufat and Of Men and Mountains by William O'Douglas.

How can I get an advanced ticket?