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you should have hearded the Phish people on the road down to the river and pushed them all in--it would have been thier first bath in years. I used to work for the Gorge campground--they were the dirtiest people I had ever delt with. If they wanted alternet places to camp I always sent them to the quincy lakes area

Its has always been told that once CPR is started on an incident like that, that only a paramedic or the cornor can say to stop. My heart felt sorrow goes out to the Family of Robert. I know everybody that was there the first people to him and the Fire department and EMS people did there jobs well. At least I havent heard anybody slamming them this time.

Found this from a guy that stopped by--he wasnt a climber but here goes: An unidentified male rock climber fell from the top of the "sunshine" area of the Frenchman's Coulee climbing area west of George about 2pm Sunday afternoon. This area, popular with climbers from all over the state, was in heavy use over the weekend signaling the beginning of a new climbing season. Several climbers witnessed portions of the accident and related their stories to a Sliderule.Net reporter. Read more.... The climbing area is immediately adjacent to Vantage Rd. off of Silica Rd west of George. This portion of old Highway 10 (prior to the creation of the Wanapum Dam reservoir) skirts the edge of a breathtaking canyon with waterfalls. Climbers from Seattle flock to several popular climbing spots with names like "The Feathers" and "Sunshine Wall". Guidebooks to the area are sold at climbing supply stores like REI (Seattle and Tri-Cities) and Mtn. Sports of Ellensburg. Clubs such as the Seattle Mountaineers and groups from REI meet at this area because there are some relatively easy but challenging pitches (climbs) and camping is permitted (or at least tolerated). The accident reportedly occured when two climbers reached the top of their climb and were preparing to make a rappel descent and "clean up" their climb (remove climbing gear such as slings and carabiners used on the way up). One witness said that she heard a screem or yell and looked to see a climber falling from the top of the wall. Other witnesses described the fall as "cartwheeling". The fall covered over 100 feet of vertical height plus some distance on the rocky scree below the wall itself. A helicopter from Yakima was called by the first EMTs on the scene (from Quincy's Grant County District 3) because of the difficult terrain and where the climber landed. While waiting for the arrival of the helicopter, other climbers and subsequently EMTs from Quincy performed approximately one hour of CPR. The helicopter hovered as near to the rock face as was safe and lowered a basket and a paramedic to where the cllimber lay on the scree at the foot of the wall, then landed to keep workers out of its rotor wash. After the basket was recovered by the helicopter, it landed next to a Fire District 3 ambulance where the climber was pronounced dead. The helicopter departed for a return to Yakima and the Grant County Coroner will take charge of the body and the investigation into the death. Sheriff and Fire crews on the scene expressed the hope that this is not a sign of more accidents at this popular climbing site. Two years ago an experienced climber died when at least one caribiner failed after he fell from the wall face. Normally these pieces of equipment, arranged in a line following the climber's route up the rock, can hold far more than the impact load of a falling climber but this time, apparently it didn't. Climbers in the area expressed sadness and shock at the death of someone doing, essentially, what they were also doing. Sliderule.Net will have more details as they become available.

Someone fell at frenchman coulee, he fell about 100 feet somewhere around the Lower Riverview Wall (I think), dont have any other information than that

heard a new one today in regardes to the "body" at vantage--there is a conservation group that would love to shut down the climbing area--they want the Department of Wildlife to shut the place down--they think that if enough people get hurt climbing then the DFW will have to step in and do something about it--block the the road--the conservation group wants the road block at the turn off--Of course I dont see how putting a dummy down there is going to help them out--

I stand corrcted

I personally dont think that if the rope was a static rope or not has any affect on the fact that the #3 cam pulled at the top I think it should have been a #4. The #3 pulled--the rope did not make that cam pull nor did it break the biener in the next cam that held-- a person falling caused it all--if the rope was weak--should it not have ripped apart? just my thought--

I have a question for Erden. Whos gear was it--yours or his or somebody elses? It seems you should have known what kind of rope it was if it did belong to you--Ive been told that at least one of the peices that was recovered had your name on it--so the question is whos gear was it. Like someone else said--if your going to climb you should know the gear that you are climbing with--

I personlly dont like the idea of renameing the route or the carving--I new route named after him would be good---the best idea I have heard is something in the parking area--something for climbing deaths--not just there but every where--