justplanecrazy

Have another trip planned, what's worth hitting and what's not? With my current belly size, I'm a 5.10 sporto and a 5.9/10 traddy.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002C ... roduct_top Yes, it's a real toy. The reviews are awesome. sample reviews: "This is great learning too for young brownshirts. I am waiting for a few accessories though, kids size jackboots and a toy Taser. Think how much fun that will be for your young Martin Bormann types. I envision a low voltage say 5KV instead of 50kv to give a realistic but non-hazardous jolt. Next we can have a nice Nerf Nightstick and little Heinrich can have great start getting ready for his future job with the TSA, local police force or the new STASI ( Secure Transportation And Safety Inititive) Be the first on your block. I also look forward to the upcoming Halliburton Play detention center real simulated barbed wire. " "I like the basic idea. I applaud Playmobile for attempting to provide us with the tools we need to teach our children to unquestioningly obey the commands of the State Security Apparatus, but unfortunately, this product falls short of doing that. There's no brown figure for little Josh to profile, taser, and detain? Where are all the frightened plastic Heartlanders pointing at the brown figure as they whisper "terrorist?" Where are the hippy couple figures being denied boarding passes? And shouldn't someone be forcing a mother figure to drink her own breast milk?"

Are they big enough to stitch into underwear?? Cause that'd be hot!!! Could start a new trend call it padigonaria

1 Logging workers 92.4 85 2 Aircraft pilots 92.4 109 3 Fishers and fishing workers 86.4 38 4 Structural iron and steel workers 47.0 31 5 Refuse and recyclable material collectors 43.2 35 6 Farmers and ranchers 37.5 307 7 Roofers 34.9 94 8 Electrical power line installers/repairers 30.0 36 9 Driver/sales workers and truck drivers 27.6 905 10 Taxi drivers and chauffeurs 24.2 67 So according to the stats that you guys posted 24.2 of 100,000 people die driving taxi/chauffering, and 37.5 die farming/ranching, and 43.2 die collecting refuse and recyclables. So driving taxi for 8 hours is just about as dangerous as driving tractor and I've never heard a cabi or a dump truck driver touting how dangerous their job is. OK, two things. First, discussions on this board can literally begin with any given topic and end on something completely unrelated. Second, shut up, nobody reads your posts anyway. Uh, you just read my post and replied to it... thanks for coming out Retard.

Farmers exagerate everything into an extreme negative. I had a good laugh at one comedian talking about how you never hear a farmer on the news saying that he had a really great crop this year and will be buying a couple more million dollar tractors. You're touting farming as one of the most dangerous professions??? More people die at the recycling depot!!! If you had one of them talk about how dangerous their job is you'd laugh. In fact its only slightly higher than a taxi cab/chauffer, so an 8 hour drive to and from the farm is almost as likely to kill you as driving your tractor around the field for 8 hours.

How did we go from heli approaches to farming?? You never did reply to that article on the Ozone: http://www.junkscience.com/Ozone/ozone_seasonal.htm#Addendum

You didn't just say that farming is one of the deadliest professions... did you?

Well it's a damn good thing we turned the heat on then cause it's going to get chilly. How do they figure we should be cooling now in year 2007 vs. year 750 when the ice age was millions of years ago give or take a few million? Believe what you may, anything with this many politicians surrounding it stinks of cover up. Take a read at this: http://www.junkscience.com/Ozone/ozone_seasonal.htm#Addendum Some food for thought. Now this is just humerous: Screw cutting down factory emmissions, just get the queen to tour the ranch's of the world and teach those cows some manners.

Are you refering to global warming as being soley caused by us?? If so I'd like to remind you that the ice has been slowly vanishing and the earth warming since the end of the last ice age, and last I checked, there were no green house gas emmisions back then. I have no doubt that we may be contributing to it but I also don't have such illusions of grandeur that we are the sole cause of it. I don't know if you remember David Suzuki's last rant about the ozone layer depleting caused soley by us and methane produced from cow shit. Well the reason he's not ranting about it anymore is because the ozone somehow replenished itself and that big hole is vanishing. According to the EPA report, the ozone layer has not grown thinner over most of the world since 1998, and the Antarctic ozone level is projected to return to pre-1980 levels between 2060 and 2075. Of course they are crediting this soley to programs that reduced emissions over the last 20 years, or did they??? Do your part to cut back on pollution but try to keep your head out of the politicians and very vocal scientist's asses. The only way for them to benefit from natural change, is to make the population believe that it can be controlled by them. Would Gore's movie be such a hit if he claimed the change was natural and beyond our control? Just take a look at how many billions of dollars are focused at climate change over the next few years... kinda like the last wave of save the ozone funding. We control a very small portion of the levers. The rest is controlled by that little thing called the universe and it is ever changing well beyond our control. Don't be complacent about the environment but be critical of media hype and try and think for yourself.

Since you're refering to my previous post, I'll answer your question. BTW, 2 out of the three main sources of I mentioned previously happen to be commuting and home energy usage: not industry. In the past 5 years I've installed an energy efficient refrigerator, dishwasher, furnace, on demand water heater, switched to compact flourescents, timed low volume irrigation, an organic garden, cancelled my yard waste and do full composting, started riding a motor cycle, and stopped commuting. My home energy consumption is now 20% of other similar households in my area (our utilities provide this statistic). So...what have YOU done, heli-boy? Good on you, my post was directed at those that continue to use heli's for an added convenience without second thought. I've done what I can, living in a condo that is energy efficient unlike 3,000sq' houses, flourescent bulbs, good fuel mileage vehicles, riding pedal bike to work, wearing underwear multi days, and using energy efficient restaurant kitchens. The last two may be due to my bachelor tendencies. Most importantly reducing my gas consumption by 50% by not using helis on uneeded approaches.

I acutally laughed when I read this- that's the whole point. You don't have to go to Pakistan, Nepal, and Patagonia. I think if you boil this down you get the point that climbing is at it's root a selfish activity. I don't see this as being particularly damming- selfishness is the primary motivator for most of us. We want to have fun, we want things to be convenient. I'm not different, I'll hop a plane or a helicopter to get to a destination I'm interested in. But I think it's valid when someone asks me to think about the impact I'm having. Why do some of you get so bent out of shape? That's the key right there. Now that we're talking about industry and how they can save the environment, we're all being very professional and cooperative. The moment you point your finger at someone's obviously needless fuel consumption, then it's personal and many people take offence. Saving the world is great as long as I don't have to change anything I'm already doing.

wfinley ya I agree that converting all cars to biodiesel would do more harm then good. I was refering to the few hippies running around using the oil already available with no extra production. As far as ethanol blends, I wasn't aware of the conflicting reports. I thought they had determined it to be far less harmful to the environment then the mess in the north we call the oil sands. Sure the pumps are probably the best case scenario but they're running dry in the near future.

Now I know you are a retard I might have just come to the same conclusion... Corn fields are freaking huge. You could probably put a corn field AROUND an oil well. Also consider fertilizer, herbicides, pesticides... farms create a lot of pollution. Canada gets the majority of its oil from the oil sands... see pictures previous page. It takes two tons of oil sand to get one 42 gallon barrel of oil and uses an enormous amount of energy to make the conversion. How a cornfield is more destructive that that, is beyond me.

This vs. This please explain... after all I am retarted.