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Find out what the conditions are like? Been thinking of heading up there this weekend.

Here's a list of some (among many others) aid organizations that are helping out and could use donations: American Jewish World Service (800) 889-7146 http://www.ajws.org American Red Cross International Response Fund (800) HELP-NOW American Red Cross http://www.redcross.org Catholic Relief Services (800) 736-3467 Catholic Relief Services http://www.catholicrelief.org Direct Relief International (805) 964-4767 Direct Relief International http://www.directrelief.org Doctors Without Borders/Medecins Sans Frontieres (888) 392-0392 Doctors Without Borders http://www.doctorswithoutborders.org International Medical Corps (800) 481-4462 International Medical Corps http://www.imcworldwide.org International Orthodox Christian Charities Middle East Crisis Response (877) 803-4622 International Orthodox Christian Charities http://www.iocc.org Mercy Corps (800) 852-2100 Mercy Corps http://www.mercycorps.org Operation USA (800) 678-7255 Operation USA http://www.opusa.org

Planning on heading to Vantage. Meeting someone Sunday, but wouldn't mind climbing Saturday. I'll drive up and probably be able to get you a ride back to Seattle on Saturday. Richard - 360-570-1778

Anyone up for a trip to Vantage tomorrow. I'll drive. Comming from Olympia. Beautiful day tomorrow - lets go. Call Richard 360-570-1778. Be up late.

109 Views and not one taker? Come on - going to be beautiful this weekend. Anyway - will be leaving Saturday morning. Give a call at 360-459-3433 if interested. Probably do Gib Ledges, but open to whatever. R.

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Anyone up for a trip up Rainer Sat-Sun/mon? Not too particular on route. Weather is sounding good.

Samson, Joffre, Matier, Shuksan, Baker, Rainer, whatever - temps are dropping. Rock would be alright too.

Follow the road up past the gate for 10-15 minutes or so (near gray ski resort shack.) If you look up to your left you can see a stone retaining wall on a switchback in the road higher up. Falls are just to the left of this. Not much water comming down - slow to form. Was up that way during the cold snap around Holloween and was no ice at all.

Was thinking of shorts and tennis shoes. Haven't decided on weather to bring a pen light or not yet. I'll skip the GPS and hope someone believes my account of sub 3:56.

Anyone up for a climb tonight?

In process of moving to Olympia - is there anything local down here?

Going to Vegas and have one day of climbing with my bro. Anyone got some suggestions on good routes, 4 - 10 pitches, mostly 5.8 or so (could have a bit of 5.9 or 5.10a). Thanks.

Anyone up for a day at Vantage tomorrow?

Usually on this type of helmet the outer shell is just for decoration and does not add to the helmet strength. Still find it quite disconcerting that the helmet was so destroyed. If a climber takes a tumble or as mentioned before hit by several rocks, what use is a helmet that is only good (possibly) for one impact? I'll take the chance on the spinal injury and save my head.

Another question i would like to raise is the helmet. It looked like a bike helmet when we were climbing, but it was a Meteor climbing helmet. The helmet was destroyed. Not that it would have helped in such a fall, but don't think a climbing helmet should end up in a half dozen small pieces after a fall. [ 10-03-2002, 08:13 AM: Message edited by: fixedPin ]

Sheriff took the rope from the accident site as evidence. Can't imagine Goran would be using static - was his rope, not Erden's.

Paul - where was the TCU (second piece you pulled)on the climb? Up high or down low? Wondering how rope got through that since after fall the rope was only through one piece near bottom and you said the draw was still on it. Biner was broken on the stem near the large end. Looked like a pretty clean break. Other half is probably still below the route. First piece was found below the trail in the scree. Also should be noted that the draws were quite short sport climbing draws. Not a lot of room for movement on gear placements. [ 10-02-2002, 08:42 AM: Message edited by: fixedPin ]

Had the same thoughts at the scene - how did the pieces come out. Especially with that much rope out. The impact force on the pieces had to be fairly small. Heard of pieces zippering up, but here the bottom piece held. Maybe some clues still up on the climb.

This picture was taken an hour or two before the accident. Other is of Air Guitar after the fall. Richard. Picture1 Air Guitar

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Lots of dogs up at the campground. Bring mine often.

Did a solo trip up 2 weeks ago. Didn't feel any need for protection. The couple of areas of ice could be avoided if so desired and were only 35 degrees or so. Conditions were really good, but might have deteriorated a bit with this warm snap. Car to car in 9 hours.

Thanks for pulling my butt up that crack Mike - Great day out. Thinking that love is ruining my climbing. Last time i got dumped, my climbing quickly climbed a few notches. Now i am back to having my partners pull me up pitches. Ah well - such is the flux of life, love, and climbing.

The cobbler up in Squamish does a great job. $39 Canadian. Done in a week. Really quality work.