MountainMan

Superman is right on. I was just on the Ice Cliff Glacier. The conditions are stellar. Make sure you give us the full TR when you get back!!!

I'm over here in Thailand right now ... lovely Patong Beach (Phuket). I've been here for a week after spending a month climbing mountains in the Himalayas (got some pretty sweet photos of Ama Dablam over there, but that'll have to wait for another thread). I agree with whoever said don't book your hotel in advance ... they're so available, and it's better to barter up front because you have that leverage (you can just walk away if you don't get the price you want - there's many more hotels -- if they see you walking away, they're often more inclined to give you the price you're asking for or close to it). I stayed away from Krabi just because I need a break from climbing after a month in Nepal. The beer is good and cheap, and if you're into women like I am, there's plenty of them. I'm getting treated like a rock star by the ladies (they love Americans) -- it's great! I hear Krabi province is wonderful though (especially Railay), so if you're coming to climb, go there. It's pretty rainy down here now, but very hot. I've seen about 3 entirely sunny days the entire trip, but even when it rains it'll dump and then stop for a few hours of sun. If you like to party, I highly suggest a few days in Patong Beach! You won't regret it. Anyway, I gotta run to the bar. Happy hour and .90 cent draught beers await me. Enjoy the rain!

Maybe its got somethign to do with the number and type of bottom shapes overall?

You could get the same result just by looking straight down, all that tells you is the rows are made of the same shapes, like dru said a while back. Yeh your right snoboy. I stand correxted.

what are the choices? I understand now why the bottom shape is a white circle (it is). Look diagonally accrossed the middle. Oval, square, circle of all the same shade. Now start at the upper right corner. Go diagonally down and to the right. The next box down would be the 1st square on the 2nd row (the white square). The next box (the box in question) should be a circle to maintain this pattern. your theory still doesnt explain the middle box in the top row though? You have to extend the square. Expand it to make it 9x9 and you'll see that the square in the top in the middle repeats itself outside the 3x3 square.

what are the choices? I understand now why the bottom shape is a white circle (it is). Look diagonally accrossed the middle. Oval, square, circle of all the same shade. Now start at the upper right corner. Go diagonally down and to the right. The next box down would be the 1st square on the 2nd row (the white square). The next box (the box in question) should be a circle to maintain this pattern.

This one was tricky for me too. Look at the top shape in each square. Then look two boxes right and one up .. it's the same figure. If you get to the end of the row, start at the beginning again. If you get to the top of a row, go to the bottom. So the top shape inside the box in question we know is going to be a gray plus sign. Now for the bottom shape I'm not sure, but I guessed white circle. Anyone know about this?

I scored a 139. We've got a smart bunch of people here (most of us that is).

There's some nice stuff up in the Pasayten in the Winter (i.e. Monument, Lago, Blackcap, and Osceola). It's a long drive, but well worth it for some quality winter climbs.

Stefan, Wishing you a speedy recovery. Just another reminder that injuries can happen to anyone at anytime. Be careful out there everybody!

Ranger Creek/Dalles Ridge/Noble Knob is a GREAT ride. It's just off highway 410 past Greenwater on the way to Crystal Mountain. Some of the best stuff I've ever rode. [ 10-10-2002, 06:54 PM: Message edited by: MountainMan ]

I've been in the Wind River Range in late September/Early October and it was definitely not warm (neither are the Cascades), but it wasn't formidably cold either. Of course when the "cold" arrives will vary from year to year. It was 65 degrees F in Pinedale, Wyoming today .. which is at the foot of the Wind River Range. Not too shabby for October 10. It's getting pretty cold at night though. So if you were to go now, Wind River would be OK. In 3 weeks it might still be OK. [ 10-10-2002, 05:16 PM: Message edited by: MountainMan ]

I didn't know there was a "season" for the Wind River Range. I always thought when it gets too cold, don't climb. I'm not sure how cold it is there right now, but it couldn't be too bad considering the low temperature in any city in the continental US was 24 degrees F yesterday. November might be pushing it, but then again it might be OK. You just have to pay attention to conditions like always and plan accordingly.

Also, Wind River Range in Wyoming .. great place to climb. And there's some pretty nice stuff up in the Yukon too (cirque of unclimbables). http://www.geocities.com/~gibell/cirque/ CIRQUE OF UNCLIMBABLES WEBPAGE ^^^^ Hit it up .. if you do a TR would be nice. [ 10-10-2002, 04:29 PM: Message edited by: MountainMan ]

Ten days sounds like a good amount of time to have a good old North Cascades Jamboree to me. I'd go up and spend some time on Ragged Ridge .. maybe climb Katsuk, Cosho, and Kimtah. Then I might go over and hit up Monument, Blackcap, Osceola, and Lago. Then if I had enough energy I'd check out Snowfield on the way back. Now is a good time to see the fall colors. Those 4 days of sunshine in the 7 day forecast look quite nice .. we probably won't be seeing any 4 day stretches like that for a while around here (if this 4 day stretch even pans out). Pros of MountainMan's Plan : -Cheap -Fun -Beautiful -Alpine -Cheap Cons : -None So there you have it.