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    stoves?

    in The Gear Critic

    Posted

    I have a Whisperlite and a fancy Primus cartridge stove.

     

    The Whisperlite is really nice, but it has to be cleaned thoroughly every now and then. And it's tricky to prime it without the blowtorch/flamethrower effect.

     

    The Primus is tiny, very light, and I really like it. The downside is that they're ridiculously expensive - I found one on sale after waiting and waiting... I haven't used it above 7000' yet, but at 6800' it worked like a champ.

     

    Why is the Bibler system better than the MSR? Does it enclose the entire stove? Isn't that a lot heavier? What's durability got to do with it, how much abuse is a stove hanging setup going to take?

    Yes we hate the fee demo

    in Access Issues

    Posted

    And this...

     

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    The legislation I just mentioned...

     

    --

    Dave Dittrich

    dittrich@speakeasy.net

     

    ---------- Forwarded message ----------

    Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 09:19:43 -0700

    From: Scott Silver

    To: Scott Silver

    Subject: Permanent Recreation Fee Legislation Introduced

     

    The second, of several recreation-fee and recreation-infrastructure pieces

    of legislation was introduced in the Senate on Tuesday of this week. The

    bill can be read at: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c107:S2607:

     

    It should some as NO SURPRISE that this legislation was introduced during

    the American Recreation Coalition's "Great Outdoors Week"

    (www.funoutdoors.com). I only wish I or some member of the general public

    could have been inside the meetings ARC must have had with the sponsor of

    this legislation, Senator Bingaman (D-NM).

     

    This bill appears to be on an extreme fast tract. A Senate hearing has

    already been set for next week, (June 19, 2002 at 9:30 AM)

    http://energy.senate.gov/cfdocs/e_witnesslist.cfm?id=288

     

    Needless to say ... this is "crunch time" for everyone who has been working

    so hard to end forest fees!!

     

    With the national Day of Action to end forest fees coming up on Saturday, I

    wish to say "Good Luck" and offer a sincere "THANK YOU" to everyone who will

    be participating. Thirty Demonstrations are scheduled in nine States, thanks

    to the help and efforts of so many of you copied on this message.

     

    When we all shout in unison on Saturday it will be our voice that is heard

    above the voice of the recreation special-interests for whom the Recreation

    Fee Demonstration Program has been created. Day of Action details can be

    viewed at:

    http://www.wildwilderness.org/docs/2002doa.htm

     

    Scott

     

    PS... The first bill in the current series of recreation-fee-related bills

    applies only to the National Parks. That bill can be read at:

    http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c107:S2473 and it was introduced by

    Senator Craig Thomas (R-WY).

     

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Scott Silver

    Wild Wilderness

    248 NW Wilmington Ave.

    Bend, OR 97701

     

    phone: 541-385-5261

    e-mail: ssilver@wildwilderness.org

    Internet: http://www.wildwilderness.org

     

    June 15, 2002 is National Day of Action to PROTEST FOREST FEES.

    For additional information contact us or see:

    http://www.wildwilderness.org/docs/2002doa.htm

     

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Yes we hate the fee demo

    in Access Issues

    Posted

    This just posted to the UW climbers club mailing list.

     

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    Final call. National Fee Demo day of protest is tomorrow in Seattle

    at REI at 11:00. A good editorial ran in the P-I today about it:

     

    http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/74540_feedemo14.shtml

     

    My research (and a new letter) is at:

     

    http://eve.speakeasy.org/~dittrich/nwba/end-the-fdp.html

     

    (I wish I could be there, but I have to fly out of town early tomorrow

    morning. I hope the turnout is high, as Congress just introduced

    fast-track legislation to make fees permanent. Call or write today,

    and show up for the protest, or fees may become permanent in a couple

    of weeks!)

     

    --

    Dave Dittrich

    dittrich@speakeasy.net

    Crampons for tele boots

    in The Gear Critic

    Posted

    I have a pair of those, the steel version with the Scottish toe (like the picture) and the step-in heel (not like the picture).

     

    They don't work on tele boots because the tele boot doesn't fit between the two metal thingies that the plastic toe strap is attached to... [Frown]

     

    They're great crampons though.

    BREAKING NEWS: Hikers stuck in crevasse on Mt. Hood

    in Spray

    Posted

    Hey Polish dude, Robert from Bellingham, you weren't quite as unpleasant in person. What's up with the vitriol on-line? What the hell did those poor folks on Hood do to you? How long has it been since you practiced ice axe arrests while tangled up in three ropes and eight other bodies?

     

    BTW, anybody want to open a betting pool on Agent Orangutan/stupidpolishsnob's new screenname?

    Fee demo

    in Mount Rainier NP

    Posted

    This was posted to the UW climbers club mailing list...

     

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    Those of you who were on the list last year know that I am a big

    opponent of the Fee Demonstration program. In case you haven't seen

    my reasons yet, they are here:

     

    http://eve.speakeasy.net/~dittrich/nwba/end-the-fdp.html

     

    I encourage everyone to join us in a protest to be held on June 15

    against this program. The Bush Administration, and some in Congress,

    are currently pushing for legislation to make these fees PERMANENT,

    two years ahead of the already twice extended scheduled deadline

    for this "demonstration". The Forest Service consistantly says the

    public accepts these fees, while at the same time dismissing any and

    all protests (and aggressively ticketing and harassing anyone who

    tries to show opposition). This is VERY anti-democratic, and the only

    way to stop it is for you to stand up to it. Join us!

     

    P.S. Please spread this flyer to other lists with active outdoors

    people and your friends and family. Encourage them all (and you too!) to

    write letters to the editor, your Congressional representatives, and

    the Office of the President. Please do this today.

     

    --

    Dave Dittrich

    dittrich@speakeasy.net

     

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    Hey Hikers, Fishers, Paddlers, Climbers, and other folks!

     

    Do you love to visit our national forests?

    Do you resent paying trail fees just to walk in the woods?

     

    Come join our Rally!

    Free the Forests - End Fee Demo!

     

    When: Saturday, June 15, 2002 at 11am

    Where: Outside the downtown Seattle REI

    Corner of Yale and John

     

    Bring a sign and a friend... Demonstrate against Fee Demo!

    ______________________________________________________________

    "Fee Demo" is a US Forest Service and BLM "demonstration" program to see

    if Americans will tolerate paying fees to use our public lands. Since

    there are no provisions within the program to register opposition, we're

    holding our own demonstration against this pay-to-play ripoff.

     

    Fee-Demo is Un-Democratic because it denies all citizens equal access to

    enjoy our public lands.

     

    Fee-Demo is Un-Reasonable because it makes us pay for what we already

    own, while timber companies, miners, and grazers get subsidized by

    taxpayers.

     

    Fee-Demo is Un-American because it violates our nation's long held

    tradition of free access to wild lands.

    _______________________________________________________________

     

    Fee-Demo is opposed by over 240 groups, including: The Access Fund,

    American Canoe Association, International Mountain Biking Association,

    Sierra Club, Federation of Western Outdoors Clubs, Cascade Mountain

    Backpackers, North Cascades Conservation Council, Pilchuk & Ranier

    Audubon Societies, Back Country Horsemen of Washington - Inland Empire

    Chapter, NW Ecosystem Alliance, and many individuals just like you!

     

    For more information:

    www.wildwilderness.org

    www.freeourforests.org

     

    Local contact: Marina (206) 527-3578

     

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    [ 05-26-2002, 05:22 PM: Message edited by: fleblebleb ]

    Daisy Chains - Yea ... or Nay?

    in Climber's Board

    Posted

    Yea to daisies, except they're a bit of a luxury - expensive and a pain to rack.

     

    Two for sport climbing - clip into each anchor bolt before threading and rapping. Why bother clipping the rope into the anchor if you're going to untie from it anyway?

     

    Two for aiding, for sure.

     

    One or none for trad or alpine or ice? Too much other stuff on the harness and you also need to have one or preferably two prusik loops to get up the rope or escape a belay or set up a Z-pulley or whatever. Unless you anticipate having to aid, then two daisies.

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