interesting topic that has gotten quite off track from the original post of rapping off snow creek. i spent the last month in leavenworth area and have done most of the routes mentioned previously. about rapping off snow creek wall, it seems feasable if some anchors are available on top. you could rap to library ledge, rap off the south end from a bolt and chain to another set of chains about 85 ft or so down, then to the top of pitch 5 on iconoclast(chains here), then rap that route all the way down via slings on blocks and trees. would i do this?-no way i'd choose to do the easy walk off every time. ahh, now the DDD topic-after climbing up the pinned out angel crack to the fixed pin and the ugly anchor slings, i thought i might try the sport route to the right which my partner informed me was retroed, which prompted the thought of leading it without bolts-glad i didn't as i pitched a few times. my opinion is that the bolts aren't necessary and a tr or headpoint is just fine. but would i chop it-no way, i am not part of the local community so why would i show up at their area and start chopping? also it sounds like much thought went into this bolt job and had the well wishes from the FA party. there are much better things to be chopping than the bolts on DDD. such as the the slings through all the bolts on the first pitch of RPM, you can barely fit a draw into those things, then you could chop all the slings around every tree and block on that wall, next off to the visor to pull off those slings. anyways, put your crowbar away and bring some scissors to the crags next time.