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Some changes on how we use CascadeClimbers.com


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It’s been 13 and a half years since we started cc.com. That is a long time! We’ve accomplished a lot of great things together in those years:

 

- 7300+ Trip Reports were shared

- 50+ FA/FFA/FWA were reported on CC.com

- We had lots of great events like Pub Club, Rope Up, Tuft Love, Sausage Fest

- We produced exceptional content from notable climbers such as Colin Haley, Dave Burdick, Sky Sjue, and Blake Herrington

- We raised money for the Index Fund

- Lots of you met for the first time, went climbing together, some even got married

- We bought and sold tons of used gear

- We supported our local outdoor businesses by providing them affordable marketing

- We’ve had a meaningful exchange of ideas, information, and education on climbing topics

- We provided free advertising and promotional opportunities to organizations such as the American Alpine Club, Washington Climbers Coalition, and the Fred Hutch Climb for the Cure.

- Most importantly we’ve brought the Pacific Northwest climbing community together

 

And we couldn’t have done any of this without YOU.

 

All of our lives have changed quite bit since the beginning and sometimes priorities and interests shift; that is likely true to all of you as well. But we remain dedicated to the community and resource that is CascadeClimbers.com and look forward to the next 13 and half years.

 

We often evaluate where we at, and while there are many positive things to be proud of, we feel there is room for improvement. So today we are going to make a pivot and update our site policy and guidelines. Our main intention/goal is to drive increased participation on the site which will lead to more quality content. This benefits everyone who uses the site, and helps keep the site relevant and vibrant.

 

Please take the time to read it, take it to heart, and see how the changes apply to your use of cc.com. We feel these changes will be welcomed by almost all who visit and use cc.com. At the same time they are not designed to exclude anyone, just certain behaviors.

 

This policy is an adaption of the Discourse rules, and we have titled it “This is a Civilized Place for Public Discussion about Climbing and the Outdoors”. To be clear, when we say “Civilized” we don’t mean this….

 

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but this….

 

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This is a place to have fun, be social, and contribute…. within boundaries. In the past our boundaries have been pretty loose. We feel that needs to change, which requires everyone’s help.

 

If you care to discuss these changes, you can do so here. If you’d rather talk to us in private, feel free to send olyclimber or myself a private message, or you can use the contact us form as well if you don’t have an account or would rather stay anonymous.

 

This is a Civilized Place for Public Discussion about Climbing and the Outdoors

 

Please treat this site and discussion forum with the same respect you would your favorite climbing area. We, too, are a shared community resource — a place to share skills, knowledge and interests through ongoing conversation. Just like a climb, come here, have fun, learn something new or pass on info and knowledge to others, and then leave it in a better state than when you came.

 

These are not hard and fast rules, merely aids to the human judgment of our community. Use these guidelines to keep this a clean, well-lighted place for civilized public discussion about climbing. Following these rules can help encourage participation of others and improve the content this board provides.

 

Improve the Discussion

 

Help us make this a great place for discussion by always working to improve the discussion in some way, however small. If you are not sure your post adds to the discussion or might detract from its usefulness, think over what you want to say and try again later.

 

This site and topics discussed here matter to us, and we want you to act as if they matter to you, too. Be respectful of the topics and the people discussing them, even if you disagree with some of what is being said.

 

One way to improve the discussion is by discovering ones that are already happening. Please spend some time browsing the topics here before replying or starting your own, and you’ll have a better chance of meeting others who share your interests.

 

Be Agreeable, Even When You Disagree

 

You may wish to respond to something by disagreeing with it. That’s fine. But, remember to criticize ideas, not people. Please avoid:

  • Name-calling.
  • Ad hominem attacks.
  • Responding to a post’s tone instead of its actual content.
  • Knee-jerk contradiction.
  • Trolling for a reaction.

Instead, provide reasoned counter-arguments that improve the conversation.

 

Your Participation Counts

 

The conversations we have here set the tone for everyone. Help us influence the future of this community by choosing to engage in discussions that make this forum an interesting place to be — and avoiding those that do not.

 

CascadeClimbers provides tools that enable the community to collectively identify the best (and worst) contributions: watched topics, likes, flags, replies, edits, and so forth. Use these tools to improve your own experience, and everyone else’s, too.

 

Let’s try to leave our community resource better than we found it.

 

If You See a Problem, Flag It

 

Moderators have special authority; they are responsible for this forum. But so are you. With your help, moderators can be community facilitators, not just janitors or police.

 

When you see bad behavior, don’t reply. It encourages the bad behavior by acknowledging it, consumes your energy, and wastes everyone’s time. Just flag it by clicking the Notify button on the post. If enough flags accrue, action will be taken, either automatically or by moderator intervention.

 

In order to maintain our community, moderators reserve the right to remove any content and any user account for any reason at any time. Moderators do not preview new posts in any way; the moderators and site operators take no responsibility for any content posted by the community.

 

Always Be Civil

 

Nothing sabotages a healthy conversation like rudeness:

  • Be civil. Don’t post anything that a reasonable person would consider offensive, abusive, or hate speech.
  • Keep it clean. Don’t post anything obscene or sexually explicit.
  • Respect each other. Don’t harass or grief anyone, impersonate people, or expose their private information.
  • Respect our forum. Don’t post spam or otherwise vandalize the forum.
  • These are not concrete terms with precise definitions — avoid even the appearance of any of these things. If you’re unsure, ask yourself how you would feel if your post was featured on the front page of the New York Times.
  • This is a public forum, and search engines index these discussions. Keep the language, links, and images safe for family, friends, and coworkers.

Keep It Tidy

 

Make the effort to put things in the right place, so that we can spend more time discussing and less cleaning up. So:

  • Don’t start a topic in the wrong category.
  • Don’t cross-post the same thing in multiple topics.
  • Don’t post no-content replies.
  • Don’t divert a topic by changing it midstream.
  • Don’t sign your posts — every post has your profile information attached to it.
  • Check to see if there is a recent post on your topic. If there is, consider replying to that topic instead.
  • Rather than posting “+1” or “Agreed”, rate the topic, or better yet share it on the social networks you use.

Post Only Your Own Stuff

 

You may not post anything digital that belongs to someone else without permission. You may not post descriptions of, links to, or methods for stealing someone’s intellectual property (software, video, audio, images), or for breaking any other law.

 

It’s Our Responsibility to Protect our Climbing Resources

 

Climbing access is lost quicker then it is gained. It is our responsibility to protect these resources, which are irreplaceable, so they are available to all of us in the future. We reserve the right to remove conversations that we deem threatening to ongoing access issues.

 

Terms of Service

 

Yes, legalese is boring, but we must protect ourselves – and by extension, you and your data – against unfriendly folks. We have a Terms of Service describing your (and our) behavior and rights related to content, privacy, and laws. To use this service, you must agree to abide by our TOS.

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