petzl nomics?

[suckbm]

who has them, do you like them, take a while to get used to, how do they perform on easier, less than vertical ice? thanks

[Dane]

I love mine. But I don't think they are the best pure water ice tool. IMO too light eevn with the head weights for pure, hard, cold, water ice. Awesome on softer alpine ice at lower angles. For hooking, mixed or a climber who can get a "light touch" on hard ice they are fantastic.

 

I prefer a Quark with a bolted on upper handhold on water ice. You get swing weight and a hammer.

 

But either can be used as a "dagger" on lower angle ice. Which I think is a huge advatage on easier slopes. Three big down sides to the Nomic, worth the advatages if on the right route...low swing weight, no spike when used as a cane and no hammer.

 

I like mine on more difficult alpine climbs as well. Takes little to get use to them and easy to begin using them to huge disadvatage.

[Dane]

Forgot this. If you want the Nomic for pure water ice you'll want to ditch the Astro pic which is intentionally very blunt to last longer on mixed. It works great for the intended purpose. The Cascade pick however was designed for pure ice and works much better going in and coming out than the Astroeh.

 

Good price on the tools right now at EMS

 

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