grivel compact black?

[tthirloway]

I was looking at the Grivel Compact Black to use as a second tool for moderately steep ice/snow. I wanted something light and compact since I'll be carrying it around Europe all summer, but I don't want to trade too much performance. My other tool will be a Petzl Aztar.

 

Does anyone have experience using the Grivel or a similar tool? Or any recommendations for something light and compact that will work?

 

thanks

[fishstick]

I own one.

 

The pick is very short and lacks bite.

 

I was carrying it on two occasions when I've snapped picks in one of my primaries (once soloing, once leading). In both situations I looked at the Compact and decided to go with the higher, more trustworthy performance of a stick with a broken pick.

 

I think the Compact is better suited to rock climbs that involve a bit of firm snow/glacier, than an ice route or couloir.

 

If you still want to go with a very, very light third, the Simond Superfox works much better on ice. It is however very short. But modular.

 

Carrying two tools all over Europe sucks, but if you want to climb ice, take real ice gear (and less pro). It'll be faster and more fun.

 

GB

[wdietsch]

If you still want to go with a very, very light third, the Simond Superfox works much better on ice. It is however very short. But modular.

 

or a 40/45 Omega Bulldog

[Nick]

How about the Grivel Evolution hammer? It is 16.5 ounces and has more of a pick than the compact black, better shaft too. I'd agree, however, that you want two full size tools if you plan to climb steep ice.

Edited January 7, 2006 by Nick