Marko Posted November 20, 2004 Posted November 20, 2004 For steep ice/snow/mixed ground on alpine routes For chopping ledges with adze Pick penetration Swing balance Overall weight Anyone swing both and have a preference or an opinion? Thanks Quote
Rafael_H Posted November 20, 2004 Posted November 20, 2004 Feathered Friends rents Vipers, try it. I hated the tool - the swing felt more awkward than anything else I tried (on real ice, climbing). Thanks, REI, for return policy. Quote
Alex Posted November 20, 2004 Posted November 20, 2004 For steep ice/snow/mixed ground on alpine routes no pref For chopping ledges with adze the quark is lighter, ergo, Vipers Pick penetration quark is the ultimate hooker tool, viper is more traditional bd tool - a bit heavier, nicer to "slam home" Swing balance quark Overall weight quark is lighter Quote
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