sailBOI Posted April 11, 2004 Share Posted April 11, 2004 (edited) The Washington State Legislators and Senators comprising the " Coastal Caucus " , and who represent the West Coast Counties , have all signed a letter of firm support for this access road to ONP ! View Here : http://brinnonprosperity.org/dose_action.html#doseletters BUT THE OPPONENTS WILL APPEAL !!! YOU CAN SUPPORT REPAIRING THIS ROAD ...write to : United States Forest Service Region 6 Attn: Regional Forester Linda Goodman 333 SW First Ave Portland, OR 97204 Use these facts in your letter : http://brinnonprosperity.org/dose_repair_compare.html =============================================== Lets get back in there and enjoy this wonderful NATIONAL PARK TRAILHEAD / repairing the road means you can take the kids too . So why leave the Old Folks at home...write now to support access to this Family and Handicapped Facility . Check the great pictures at : http://www.trailmonkey.com/frwadosm.htm see previous Forum for details : http://www.nwhikers.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4782 http://www.nwhikers.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4895 or participate in our Forum at : http://brinnonprosperity.org/ -------------- Edited April 11, 2004 by sailBOI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairweather Posted April 11, 2004 Share Posted April 11, 2004 Im with you 100%!! But I believe this issue has already been resolved.......a bypass is to be constructed..... http://www.fs.fed.us/r6/olympic/news/index.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faster_than_you Posted April 11, 2004 Share Posted April 11, 2004 Agreed, OPEN THE ROADS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sailBOI Posted April 11, 2004 Author Share Posted April 11, 2004 Oh Boy....where do I start ? The opponents to this repair are preparing an appeal . If that fails , they may litigate . Endless delays could spin us into a new US Administration , and back to the days of the "Justice" Dept. being told not to win certain cases . The opponents to this repair are well connected Wilderness advocates . They are organized and can generate mass mailings . I hope that you will follow the issue and get ALL YOUR FRIENDS writing letters to the NFS address given in this posting above... Thanks a Bunch.....ken shock ( sailBOI ) www.brinnonprosperity.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairweather Posted April 12, 2004 Share Posted April 12, 2004 Thanks for the info Sailboi! Exactly which group(s) are contesting this? It is exactly this kind of shit that turned me AGAINST the so-called 'environmental movement' over a decade ago. I was not aware that there was organized resistance to such a simple and logical road repair. (...But then who ever said these guys were driven by logic.) I'll write! Thanks again, and keep me up to speed on any public hearings to which I can lend my support/presence to your cause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sailBOI Posted April 12, 2004 Author Share Posted April 12, 2004 Here you go , you can see for yourself ! They are attempting to obtain more wilderness defacto , knowing that Congress would never cut this public access off . The method they are using is to misrepresent the repair as "Old Growth Logging" , to push the buttons of folks that have never been to this place , and get lots of letters sent in. I have the Process Records for this case and hardly any of the letters opposing the repair are from Jefferson County !! Opponents say: http://www.drizzle.com/~rdpayne/opa-alerts.html http://www.olympicforest.org/ Our Rebuttal : http://brinnonprosperity.org/dose_repair_compare.html The way to deal with these guys is to get all your friends and relatives to write as described above. Spend a bit of time with our web site...we are advocating restoration of the old Dosewallips Trail . The ONF have given us a thumbs up on this. Check this out : http://brinnonprosperity.org/focusitem_dosetrail.html Ira Spring Letter : http://brinnonprosperity.org/letters/ira_spring_letter_dose-repair.gif I will post notices of any important news at this Forum . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairweather Posted April 12, 2004 Share Posted April 12, 2004 Wow! Thanks for the links SB. Here is a sample of their bullshit. Unbelievable! How many recreationalists are they willing to alienate, and at what ultimate cost to the very causes they hope to promote long-term. Short sighted idiots, all.... "Deep in the habitat of the endangered Northern Spotted Owl—along the Dosewallips River where it flows through Olympic National Forest, just 35 miles west of Seattle—the Bush administration is gearing up to log off hundreds of trees—some believed to date to the time of Columbus. The old trees are only a tiny part of what's at risk on the Olympic Peninsula: if Team Bush gets its way, the entire Dosewallips watershed will be put at risk.... The old growth trees in question have not even been surveyed for endangered spieces, and yet their statement above leads one to believe they have. The area in question is not in a protected wilderness area. And "team Bush" is at fault, of course - not local folks who just want to maintain traditional access. How do these people sleep at night? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sailBOI Posted April 12, 2004 Author Share Posted April 12, 2004 (edited) Not sure how they sleep ! If they succeed , they will have taken away access , to the Eastern entry of one our finest NATIONAL PARKS , for all but the most physically fit ! The first rate facilities at Muscott Flats and the Dose Ranger Station , which are upgraded for handicapped , will be inaccessable to the young , elderly , physically impared and handicapped . This closure also eliminates a number of day hikes for city folks , and makes trans Olympic climb/hikes more difficult/impossible to plan if there are time constraints . The actions of these few groups are thwarting Democracy , by utilizing convoluted environmental regulations , in ways they were never intended . The average American taxpayer would be quite upset if they knew this story....! The average Jefferson County resident is more than upset , as many of us are out here because of the access , or depend on tourism for income . Presently , I can no longer take my grandaughter or my mom to the Park , which had been part of Brinnon culture and economy for 70 years << our response is >> www.brinnonprosperity.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Edited April 12, 2004 by sailBOI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndavidjr Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 (edited) Sheeesh !! Just what "wilderness values" IF ANY, might contributors to this thread actually support? I was delighted when the east side wilderness areas were established in the latter 1970s---I find this thread gravely disheartening. Morality compells me to suggest that "brinnonprosperity.org" so helpful & concerned about the mountaineering constituency, is a shill for local real estate interests and their lackeys. In a word to the wise, all rather tough on the landscape. ------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________ Edited May 24, 2004 by johndavidjr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairweather Posted May 25, 2004 Share Posted May 25, 2004 You live on the east coast and presume to tell us how to live and what wilderness values are? Then you have the audacity to ask for info regarding the Stone Ponds Traverse on another thread? I'll tell you what....The road has been decomissioned. Environmental lawyers will not allow a repair to be completed. Wilderness values 'n all, ya know. Stay home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sailBOI Posted May 25, 2004 Author Share Posted May 25, 2004 You are completely incorrect about me and my efforts. Furthermore, you do not seem to be the sort of polite person most of us would prefer sharing the Wilderness with..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndavidjr Posted May 27, 2004 Share Posted May 27, 2004 (edited) Dear Sailboy: Share with Your Mother (for the moment, we don't have to). Also your comment re. Justice Dept, now run by Mr. Ashcroft, is an unclear point in light of Dubyah telling Justice Department not to defend roadless area roadbulding rules in court. Could you be more specific about President Clinton's failings on matters pertaining to wilderness mountaineering maintenance and access issues? __________________ _______________ ---- Edited May 27, 2004 by johndavidjr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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