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overall i,m with matt,s opinion at 90%. but i do not agree

with you on the wand,s deal. either winter or summer wands are needed, add to that compass and anyone should be safe.personaly i think no one should take stove

or sleeping bag for the summit ( unless you intend to stay there overnite ) what,s up with big groups ?

too big!!!!. 2-3 climber teams operate better/faster and

if there is a problem you know it right then.

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