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That sounds like a good tool, too. I currently have an older version of DeLorme's Topo USA (3.0) which does pretty well for backcountry topo stuff. Fairly customizable, and gives good elevation profiles for routes and such. Also interfaces with GPS units, but I've just started exploring that feature. At some point I may upgrade to a newer version.

Actually, as I look around some more, this Black Diamond Sphynx 32 looks like it could work. Very minimal on the external features, but it is hydration compatible, is just over 3 lbs, and stripping the aluminum frame takes another pound off. And it's far cheaper, so that is good.

Are USGS Quads appropriate/useful for mountaineering? Are there many people who use them, or are there more useful map systems out there...? (I realize, of course, that guide maps, photos, etc are also important)

great, thanks eric. that's the kind of input i was searching for. also, perhaps i should ammend my first post by saying "getting into alpine climbing, and perhaps some big volcanoes". there is somewhat of a difference, yes yes? i'd much appreciate it if someone who stumbled upon this thread who has used a Naos would chime in, but if there is no such person, then oh wells. thanks again.

ok, then it isn't for summits. anyone else?

The Bora 80 thread below inspired me to start this thread. Been backpacking for years now, starting to make the leap to alpine climbing (PNW Cascades). I have a Bora 80 that is a few years old, but in good shape. I am looking to supplement it with another pack used for shorter light and fast trips or for summitting. The Arc'teryx Naos pack has been intriguing me for awhile now, especially the 45 or 55L. Does anyone have any experience with it? If you don't have any experience with it, but have plenty of experience in the hills, perhaps you can look over these links and give me your impression of what its performance or hinderances might be. http://www.arcteryx.com/product.aspx?Naos-45# http://www.rei.com/product/733753 Thanks a bunch.

Thanks for the interest and the replies. The "markings" on the end consist of a wrap-label telling me it's a 10mm and 60m. That's it, I think. I will follow up on sending a photo to Mammut, and I will probably dunk it and see what it does. Maybe it will be obvious, maybe not. Thanks again.

Back in 2003 I purchased a 10mm 60m Mammut rope (long story, but this was before I knew anything about mountaineering - and I'm still learning). IIR, I paid between $115-150. Basically, I want to know if the rope is a dry rope and if it can be identified by the color of the weave. Is there a way to find out? Can I soak the rope and see if it takes on water? /noob, thanks

I picked up an older model a few years back (when it wasn't an older model) and I love it; no complaints. It is quite comfortable, and has plenty of good features. I'm pretty sold on Arc'teryx products now, and am looking at a smaller Naos for taking into the mountains on those wetter trips.