Klimber

That sounds like a line to use with your sex partner. It's rude to not notify people head of time when making such statements. Now get over here and clean the cheeseburger and sprite off my computer monitor.

I was at Mt Erie this weekend also and over heard a conversation happening in another group of people. There was a girl (A) on rapel and another girl (B) helping her start he rappel. Girl B was really "pushing" girl A to do the rappel even though she wasn't interested in doing it. Girl B at one point even said "you need to do this so you can learn to trust God". I didn't have that guide book but I can't say I was that impressed with Mt. Erie since we had to camp so far away (Deception Pass camp grounds) and the routes weren't that great. Will definitely return though if all the other places continue to be so hot (girlfriend doesn't like anything above 80F).

btw - where do people camp?

yes sir, will report back on Sunday.

I have read a few guides and some information on the web and the result is that I have mixed feelings about it. sounds like most of the trad routes are not so good (that's OK I guess) but there are some good sport routes. Not much camping near the site and the approach isn't too great. What are people's experience? Is it a good place to crag? Why am I looking at it? The girlfriend can't handle anything above 80 and Leavenworth was around 90 last weekend so she is no so hip to that. I am not that big of a fan of the heat either but then again, I grew up in oklahoma so I have learned to deal with it.

been getting these, I REALLY like them. PRICEY but they are sold out at REI a lot so I am probably not the only one. http://www.rei.com/online/store/ProductD...NS_CLOTHING_TOC

been there the last two weekends without seeing one. It doesn't make me less cautious, I just figure I am lucky.