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He caved. HE CAVED?! What a douche. Rahm Emanuel is a turd burgling bike seat sniffer.

Presidents should not speak directly to children, visit dead soldiers, or talk on TV. Who does this guy think he is, Hugo Chavez?!

How about walking away from your mortgage?

Shoulda gone single payer...

He's still pining for the alternate universe where his McCain predictions came true and taxes are low and America's back on top.

Here are some encouraging poll numbers. See ya, asshole.

You haven't argued anything around here for over a year now besides some whiskey or Kevbone bullshit.

Yes. Thanks for asking. NEXT!

You should get a job at the CIA (circa 1950).

No shit. But there are already moderates and secular movements, progressive and otherwise within those societies. There have been for years and in some cases they've been quite successful. Unfortunately, the US was doing it's best to undermine and destroy them when those forces were much stronger than they are today. Now look who we get to deal with. Fucking liberals, economists, technocrats, etc. don't seem to understand that the global poor, women suffering under patriarchies, peasants,and the rest don't want the US's help, they want us to get out of their way and let them change their own societies. You want to help? Pull the fuck out, stop propping up dictators and oil monarchies, stop plundering their resources and trying to turn them into Walmart consumers, and give their homegrown progressive movements some resources and some space to do what needs to be done. Sheesh. every time I think you could not possibly be more clueless... Of course your bloody-minded anti-communism and interventionism in the region has been a huge success, right? Iran being a case in point where a popular secular leadership, happy to sell oil to the West if not allow the wealth to be suctioned out of the country, was not good enough for Standard Oil and the American Idiots pissing their pants (needlessly) that the country would "go commie". One coup and one America-friendly dictatorship bent on squashing its enemies on the Left later and we get an Islamic Revolution and three generations of Iranians that hate America. Great work! Gold Star!

No shit. But there are already moderates and secular movements, progressive and otherwise within those societies. There have been for years and in some cases they've been quite successful. Unfortunately, the US was doing it's best to undermine and destroy them when those forces were much stronger than they are today. Now look who we get to deal with. Fucking liberals, economists, technocrats, etc. don't seem to understand that the global poor, women suffering under patriarchies, peasants,and the rest don't want the US's help, they want us to get out of their way and let them change their own societies. You want to help? Pull the fuck out, stop propping up dictators and oil monarchies, stop plundering their resources and trying to turn them into Walmart consumers, and give their homegrown progressive movements some resources and some space to do what needs to be done. Sheesh.

I'm not giving any religion a free pass. My point is all religions have the potential to catalyze and provide coherence to political violence depending on the historical circumstances. Demonizing "Islam" as the root cause for the rise of militant fringe movements or that violence is exceptionally "hardwired" into it is nonsense.

Uh, many were actually doing quite well in all these areas in the post-colonial 1950's and 60's under secular leadership educated in the West, influenced by Left ideas and dedicated to national economic and political development. The US took care of that right quick and gave us Bin Laden. Remember?

Are you in the Kojak School of Showing Your Bare Ignorant Ass today, or what? Don't tell the 13 million Jews around the world that the Old Testament is a dead, irrelevant text. Don't tell the millions killed in the Christian Crusades, the Inquisition, the religious wars that swept Europe in the late-Middle Ages, or the indigenous populations of the Americas that were tortured until they were converted or killed that the New Testament is all about love. How religious texts are interpreted and acted upon is all about the historical political and economic context. Nothing else. You want to see a resurgence of Christian radicalism in the US? We keep going in the direction we're headed and I guaranfuckingtee that you will. Shit, look at the discourse among the large evangelical population in the US military. They're interpreting and acting on New Testament texts in a way that is nothing if not devoted to global purification and conquest, to holy war. You got your shit all backwards. As a 20th Century "spiritual warrior" killing street thugs and terrorists in the employ of the Man, you of all people, should understand this.

This is pure horseshit. Muslim societies were practically inventing mathematics, astronomy, law, exploring the globe, etc. etc. etc. while Europe was scratching around in the dirt for tubers. The kind of ahistorical nonsense you're spewing is a debunked, disproven Clash of Civilizations rehash. Get real.

Obfuscating the ongoing historical development of the Middle East, the process by which a potent strain of militant Islam came into existence, and how and when people are radicalized around ethnic, religious, tribal, and national identities by pretending that the Koran is a sort of timebomb set in the 7th Century is kinda silly.

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Thanks for the tip.

That's rich coming from a McCarthyist who sees socialist/commie conspiracies everywhere. We'll note once again the lack of any argument or substantiation for that ad-hominem. Aw, don't blame him. It was his upbringing.

It's about fucking time. That bitch has been terrorizing us for years. Waterboarding, tribunals, Guantanamo, whatever it takes to keep us safe from this creature...

Thanks for the Facebook status update.

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