TG1

You don't have one arm do ya????? You're not sitting in a tree are ya??

If you carry a concealed handgun, you're required in every state that has a "shall issue" program that you must have completed a basic pistol course and be trained in the proper safe-handling techniques of that handgun. If you're under 18 in most states, you're required to take a hunters safety course to ensure that you can handle the firearm responsibly. These items are already in place and work quite well. As far as locks on your guns......Should the time ever arise that your loved ones are confronted by an intruder in your home, just don't forget where you left your keys to that precious trigger lock. Something else to note is the fact that no handgun or rifle is sold in this country new without a trigger lock included in the package. I have quite a collection that I use for securing my luggage when I travel by airplane. They seem to work best for that application. The last thing I need is some politician telling me that I must use one, just because it's the politically correct thing to do, all the while disregarding the fact that it's endangering my families safety. That's laws that this country doesn't need.

why bother, you are doing just fine. i mean it's hard to argue with someone who's IQ is 80, right? you are just a prime specimen of republican supporter- dumb, uneducated and without answers. keep going- you are doing a fine job of making me lough and a complete ass out of yourself If that were the case, based upon unbias statistics, even those that are taught in a democratic controlled education system, the majority of the voters that vote Democrap are not only uneducated, but also happen to be a large number of minorities. You surely wouldn't be refering to me, so it must be that ugly bastard you have to stare at in the mirror every morning. Where'd you say you were from Boy???? Poland This door is just way too open for you to start talking about education and "prime specimens".

Well, as ignorant as I appear, you left-wing weanies should be tearing me up on this debate.....Not so ehh?

Did you mean cretin? If so than you should probably crawl under your own rock or go back to high school for civics and spelling. LOL........Hook.....Line.....& Sinker Sense I's not as edmucated as you other fellars, I tought I'd sea if you cought that.......Good job...that's ten points.

Come on now Asskowits, can't you do better than that? Or have you left to gather your thought and wonder why you're a liberal puke who doesn't belong in this fine country, breathing the same air that the rest of us do? Crawl back under your rock from whence you came credent.

forgot to mention a wanker and dumbass. T-A=0. like i said- wanker Now that was the reply I was waiting on.......out of ammo aren't ya???? Come on now.......throw some more profanity out there and see if you can't get your point across.

Your logic is flawed once again....... If the people who are paying the most taxes are benefiting the least from them, would you explain then the fact that the richest 1% in this country tackle well over the majority of the tax burden. That would be the richest 1% that your purple heart savior was claiming was the only one receiving tax cuts....correct? Does this mean that the richest 1% is infact entitled to these tax cuts???.....or does it mean that in fact you're really not contributing to the tax base as much as you claim.....be concise here on your position. I suppose welfare is really low in those urban areas that just happened to end up in the blue too?????? Where exactly does the money from welfare come from???? Taxes maybe......From who paying????? Aren't these the same guys who aren't entitled to tax cuts, just because they support your sorry polish ass?

simple- the length of the weapon and ability to hide. there is a minimum lenght issue. my point is that i am not agains gun ownership. have a gun, have a hangun if you want. but there is simply not enough safety and not enough enforcement. your logic is like this- i am responsible, so why do i have to suffer concequences for some dummbshit asshole- right. i get your point. but the other side of the issue is like this. if there is a dangerous section of the road and high rate of the accidents the first thing that will happen is the speed limmit gets lowered. that's called public safety. you can be a race car driver and you can go safely through this section twice the speed limmit, but you still have to obey the rule, right? you said, gun related crimes are commited by criminals. that's an oxymoron. the fact is that if you commit a crime, using a gun - that makes you a criminal. canada has higher gun ownership rate then the united states. yet i can walk on the street there without worry. so what is the big deal? you pass a test showing you can handle the gun, the same way you have to pass the test that can show you can operate car or an airplane. tell me what's wrong with that? The meaning of criminals using firearms to commit crimes is based on the fact that these criminals had already been convicted of crimes, preventing them from purchasing firearms in a local sporting goods store like an honest citizen would. In other words, they steel their firearms, or otherwise purchase them on the black market. I'd love to see where you're getting your stats on Canadian gun ownership as compared to the United States. It's quite contradictary to every form of published data available. Your minimum length issue will matter little if shot with a 18" barreled 12 gauge or 28", the end result will be the same.......death. That's the point. Last time I checked, it was much easier to conceal a handgun than a pistol grip, bayonet lugged, extended magazine rifle too!!!! But hey, what do I know.....I'm only a gunsmith and custom rifle builder. Ohh, and did I mention a proud member of the GOP?

It would behoove you to find out what "Arms" means in the context of the second amendment. Amendment II A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed. so what part of well regulated militia are you? from a historical context that would be police, national guard and all the branches of military. it doesn't say private citizens, right? it says well regulated militia. you know what militia is? tha fact of the matter is you don't know anything about history, even the history of your own country. You are the one that needs the history lesson During our Revolutionary War we had a standing army, as well as a Milita.......It was not the same thing. The milita was comprised of ordinary men who operated much differently than the normal military. The National Guard is controlled by the goverment, so in essence by your way of thinking, the National Guard and our other Branches of the military are the only ones entitled to carry firearms correct???? I believe that would be like the Wolves tending to the Sheep. Welcome to the flock dumbass.

"Well regulated" has nothing to do with regulating which firearm is being used, it's means giving the people the ability to first assemble and voice their opinion of goverment(see the 1st amendment), then organizing together(see 1st amendment again) to form an able-bodied group of soldiers comprised of ordinary men to defend your rights as citizens with whatever available weapons that they would have at their disposal. For those of you have obviously limited experience in firearms as they pertain to "assault weapons", let me educate you just a little. First, your typical "assault weapon" is by most standards very crudely assembled out of sub-standard materials, with less than desirable engineering to produce substandard results in terms of accuracy. Most assault rifles are lucky to hold 5-10" groups at 100 yards from a benchrest position. Malfunctions are the norm during rapid fire, and the sighting systems are among the worst available. Big Game hunting rifles, varmint rifles, etc. are capable of shooting groups of as a little as .100" groups at the same range, utilizing on the average, much more powerful cartridges. Having to choose between the two as to which one I'd rather defend myself with, I'd opt for the hunting rifle hands down. I don't own an assault weapon as the politicians have described them, but I own many of the other "hunting rifles". If I choose to buy an assault rifle, that's my choice, and there's not enough bleeding-heart liberals on this site or any other to sway my way of thinking. When you idiots start realizing that a firearm is nothing more than an inanimate object, just like a car, plane, and other forms of dangerous transportation, which seems to continually kill far more people than guns every year, only then will you figure out how to deal with the problems this country has. Step away from your tunnel vision on this issue and start understanding why we are in the predictment that were in. It's called a moral and social decline as a whole in this country, most of which can be contributed to some of the bright scholars that I've heard spewing shit on this thread, and people just like you. You fellas ever wonder why it is that you have such a hard time winning this debate on these issues???? Could it be that perhaps you are standing on the wrong side of common sense, the same common sense that this country was founded on, that you can't seem to interpret correctly, or are completely unwilling to. Now flame away you limpwristed, crybaby, Kerry-shoulda-won, I'm moving to Canada rejects.

Well, you see it's kinda like this.......It has been too long since this limpwristers have ever had to fight for their freedoms that they are so quick to give them up. They'd have you believe that the Constitution was meant to read that the National Guard was what a militia was. Sorry boys, but that just isn't the case. Here's a couple of quotes that might enlighten you fellas as to what they really meant. "A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of your walks." Thomas Jefferson, Encyclopedia of T. Jefferson, 318 (Foley, Ed., reissued 1967). (Letter to Peter Carr, his 15-year-old nephew, August 19, 1785) "Little more can reasonably be aimed at, with respect to the people at large, than to have them properly armed and equipped;…" Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers # 29. "The great object is that every man be armed ... Everyone who is able may have a gun." Patrick Henry, 3 Elliot, Debates at 386 "The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes....Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man. Thomas Jefferson's "Commonplace Book," 1774-1776, quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria in Chapter 40 of "On Crimes and Punishment", 1764. Chapter. Whole Book. Now I could add a lot more, but I think you get the point. Our Founding Fathers only problem in writing the Constitution was that they could not forsee what a bunch of idiots that we have in the "blue states" who would so easily give up their freedoms and contract bottom-feeding attorneys to begin the interpreting process of their fine document. The good news is for all you Yankees is that Canada is welcoming you with open arms, so don't let the door on that 747 hit ya in the ass