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Theres some good info here....could you guys put some of this in the thread I just started in the Newbies forum? Thanks!!
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I'll start this by trying to explain my perspective so that the answers are helpful to a newbie and try to avoid a bunch of potential spray.
I've been 'learning to climb' (as I do not yet call myself a climber) for a couple of months now. I can distinguish the difference between Sport (bolts?) and Trad (placing and cleaning pro?) and know what multipitch means. I've also enquired about ice climbing. My skillset is such that I will continue to develop my technical climbing skills and push myself to do tougher sport and trad climbs. I also know* (think) that there is a whole new set of skills needed when attempting Alpine climbing. I can see where some of the skills one learn will be applied here but there is so much more to learn. From reading some of the posts in other forums, I'd like to bring some of that info to the Newbie forum so its easier to sort out.
So, heres the question:
When a beginner sport/trad climber is interested in learning about the joys of Alpine, where would he/she begin? Please spare me the 'read a book or take a class' fluff if you're not going to follow it up with a suggestion and an explanation of why you are suggesting it.
Thank You in advance for your meaningful explanations and suggestions.
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I recommend not bringing more than one rope apiece. Leave the best one at home since we will be top-roping everything. I'd hate to see someone get ripped off at the road.
I will have one rope, rack, slingage, a couple L harnesses, one XS harness, A couple pairs of smaller shoes.
Okay. I'm dieing to get out and try me new rope out though. I'll only birng one.
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Last year:
What route is that? It looks fun!
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I do! have a griddle that is...itcame with my 2 burner propane stove. I'll bring a couple of 5 gallon water thingys and a couple of extra sleeping bags for stragglers should we need them. We've had a wave of disappearing tent poles hit my house so I'm afraid that I only have one 3 man tent available....but I'll bring beer, OJ, and eggs. I'll also have Morning Star breakfast patties available. Somebody else got bacon?
I also have a rope and draws now All I need to do is learn how to lead. Do we need extra ropes? I cna dig up another one as well. Lets take a climbing inventory check.
Nina = 1 adult small harness
Size 34 shoes
2 ropes (1 dry 60 and 1 nondry 60)
Adult ex small harness
Kids shoes
12 draws (sorry, no rack yet)
I can get my hands on more stuff if we need it but thats what I've got to share at the moment. Can we go today? Gawd its beautiful out there!
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So after going to four climbing stores, I finally was able to track down the infamous pinky, the .5 tri-cam nobody can do without. It's a stocking stuffer for my wife, ever since last spring when she finally did her first trad lead (without me no less), she has been raving about tri-cams and we need a whole rack of them and nothing else and yadda, yadda, yadda.
So what's the deal with nobody carrying tri-cams any longer? REI only has the big behemoth ones (as opposed to those little behemoth ones ) and several stores didn't carry them at all. But you can find Metolious cams at your friggin neighborhood Wal-Mart.
One more place....
http://www.rockclimbing.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=719642&highlight=#719642
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Then there’d be no justification for flopping on the grass every time they get bumped.
Ah..but you must be watching MLS soccer then...that would explain the b o r i n g run, pass, flop....see, those guys grew up watching NFL and then decided to play the real futbol. Switch over to non American futbol sometime...nothing boring about that. Hay Pope...let's meet on the pitch sometime sans pads and see who flops? T'wont be me
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Don't like it? Have a tissue for your issue.
Like it? I LOVE it! REAL futbol....of course!
No fatasses here! Where are the helmets and padding? What? We don't stop play every 15 seconds?
Now heres a sport for REAL men!
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answer yo pm's as well. newbs don't show up uninvited.
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Friday night.
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Marie, I'll be there as will Simona, I believe. I'll be able to recognize you by your voice Make sure to give us a high kick upon arrival so we're sure its you
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Sexy.....
Heres another one....
http://www.berghaus.com/content/index.asp?section_id=56&content_id=6257
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The new NFL season gets underway tonight. Gotta admit that I'm excited. Go Seahawks!!!!
So...does this excite you too?
Baaaaaabbbbyyyy!
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The new NFL season gets underway tonight. Gotta admit that I'm excited. Go Seahawks!!!!
Gowans, you tosser, football (as in that crap Americans play that calls for tossing around a pigskin with shoelaces resulting in a bunch of sweaty fat men playing pig pile) is a load of shite and so are the Seahawks.
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How do you know about the tartan army????
Coz ima wee hen
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Don't worry, "wrong side" is relative, ie the side that you don't use.
Whew! I was worried....I surf goofy footed...so I was afraid htat I might be goofy slung as well...
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I started out using a symmetrical sling, but switched to an asymmetric one for comfort. The problem is when you get a partner (like Toast) who racks on the wrong side of his body, they have to wear the rack inside out. Wait, I guess that's his problem.
What side of your body are you supposed to rack on then?
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may be able to make it w/ wife and kids...
Whoo hoo! Another girl
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S.C.O.T.S,
we are S.C.O.T.S,
we are S. super scotland,
we are C. completly barmy,
we are O. on the bevvie,
we are T, tartan army,
singing O OO O!
S.C.O.T.S,
WE ARE S.C.O.T.S,
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The cool thing about kayak surfing is when the surf gets that big, you can get some epic backflip poundings and then tell your friends it was an intentional rodeo move.
that's what happened the last time I got ravaged by the surf. My bud told me the boat was all the way out of the water
I think kayak surfin is a heck of a lot easier than surfing if you know how to roll. you can catch a lot more crashing waves too (if your timing sucks like mine)
many people been out to Westport? I've heard that's a popular place for surfers...
Thats the problem with Westport..its popular.
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Yes. Was that you ahead of us? If so you're in trouble for being inconsiderate and bringing down small rocks on my belay. If it wasn't you then were you climbing on the 5.8 next to Moscow. Looked like a nice climb.
NOTE TO NEW MULTI PITCH CLIMBERS (OR INCONSIDERATE EXPERIENCED ONES...): If you believe you need two ropes to get off a climb either the leader trails it, so the second can free it if it gets stuck OR the second carries it on his/her back or in a pack. IMO the second should NEVER be trailing a rope and just leave it hanging all the way up a multipitch route without ever restacking at the belays. It is in the way of other parties coming up behind and creates hazard by potentially bringing down rocks on other climbers. AND if it does get stuck you have created a problem for the parties coming up behind you.
VERY BAD FORM!!! Whoever you were.
Wasn't me, but Thank You for that bit of advice, as I do fall into that category of Newb Multipitch. THat would be one I'd rather not have to learn the hard way, for other people's sakes.
Thanks Again!
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Great time down at Otter Rock as well! Waves were great on Saturday then flat on Sunday. Headed up to Cape Kiwanda and had some 6 foot swells until the early evening. Went to Cannon Beach on Monday and gave it a try but it was pretty flat so we went to Bill's Tavern and had some nice beer instead. Glad you all had fun!
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I might be able to join you!
Kids' Rope-Up 2004
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What if it rains? Sorry...I had to ask