Sorry to butt in but wanted to say that the Eliot is melting fast. I've been chucking picks that last couple of weekends up there. Couldn't find anything until we got to at least the upper section of the lower ice fall. I think next time we are going to check out the upper ice fall for some higher things. There is definately some over hung (glacier ice) we were on last weekend. Better than doing pull ups at home with the tools.