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  1. It's not really the traverse if you didn't repeat the original route. In that case it would make it basically a variation or something partial. Just like a climbing route on a mountain. Call it staunch if you want. What do you then call someone that claims to climb a technical mountain route but didnt? Well in this case maybe not a fibber but I would choose to enlighten that person.

     

    To claim you hiked the trail along the route that those dudes bagged the peaks back in the 30's and call it the Ptarmigan Traverse is only humoring yourself.

  2. That doesn't really sound like the entire traverse to me.

     

    I'm not discrediting anyone and their accomplishments except when they might claim to do something they did not. Maybe what you really meant to say is something like "my friends completed a variation or version of the Ptarmigan Traverse in 2 days. This was completed from a to b with this many summits." ??

  3. Last summer Joe S. and Andrew W. were able to complete the entire traverse on foot in fifteen hours.

     

    The "entire traverse" entails what? Did they climb *all* the summits or just walk across the mountains tagging the ones they saw fit. That's some spray if I ever heard it. fruit.gif

  4. YUP SKIING IS EASY COMPARED TO RACING AROUND THE WOODS AT 60MPH....

     

    YOU THINK HITTING A TREE WHILE SKIING IS TOUGH ON YOURSELF.........

     

    It's all calculated to skill and balls just like anything else. Well if you're a lady then not balls but guts smirk.gif

     

    Skiing and biking can both be dangerous. It's the participater in each event that will determine which is more. Except for Eivel Knievel cantfocus.gif

  5. I USED TO RACE DIRT BIKES IN MY YOUNGER DAYS...AND I WENT OVER THE HANDLE BARS AROUND 80 MPH...UP SHIFTING INTO 6TH GEAR...

     

    WENT OVER THE HANDLE BARS AND HIT A ROCK WITH MY FACE....BROKE MY BELL HELMET'S FACE PEICE OFF AND CRAKCED THE HELMET STRAIGHT THRU....I GOT MESSED UP, BUT THE BELL HELMET SAVED ME LIFE!!

     

     

    That explains everything now grin.gif

  6. AlpineK:

     

    Please don't assume that people who helicopter ski don't know "jack shit" about snow and avalanche conditions and avalanche rescue. The time I did it with friends in B.C., it was the 18th trip for their group. They have been to India, New Zealand, Canada, and Alaska. Most of them are professional ski instructors. Many first descents among them. Serious skiers who know more than many skiers. It is wrong to assume that people who can afford to ride in helicopters all day for a week are inept. Some undoubtedly are, but certainly not all.

     

    And, of course, the unfortunate group of backcountry skiers that is the subject of this thread, like the group that suffered three casualties in Canada last year (I think it was last year) and the group of Mountaineers that had an accident near Crystal this year, suggest that plenty of backcountry skiers (i.e. not "helicopter skiers") make fatal mistakes as well. It happens.

     

    Hopefully everyone can learn from this tragedy.

     

    John Sharp

     

    I'm with Juanita here. frown.gif Just because some skier rides a chopper does not imply any type of skill or lack of skills.

     

    The generalization comments are just opinions until someone justifies otherwise with some hard facts from a well respected and unbiased source. Just like in any argument right grin.gif

     

    Either way it sucks this happened.

     

    Oh yeah!! No way it can be more than a few hours. Unless you drive into a time warp, fall victim to funny shrooms and get diverted, or enter the unheard of BC triangle.

  7. The next time I see some mountaineer students out rock climbing I got a plan.

     

    I'll go and climb around them waiting for rockfall and falling equipment to hit me. Then I'll sue the organization for negligence. I bet they have a lot of money to pay up since they publish all dem books.

     

    fruit.gif

  8. You'll likely not get most places to accept a return under those circumstances. Everyone knows that and I immediately would have chosen the gift certificate instead.

     

    The staff over there has had attitudes for years. It's a nationally known reputation that they have "I love myself syndrome". It's humorous when my friend from Tennessee knows about their attitudes all the way down there fruit.gif

     

    Maybe they need a wake up call confused.gif

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