Mark_Husbands

not 20deg., but under 2lbs. w/ pertex shell http://www.moonstone.com/d_sb.asp?id=T12570%20Regular%20/%20T12470%20Long

Probably everyone everyone has already read this request and decided to respond or not, but i've got a couple days left to collect comments, so here goes again. Should there be an understood code of conduct at climbing areas, or is individual freedom nore important? Would you voluntarily give up certain climbs, styles or activities to conform to local codes of conduct? ·If there is an accepted code of conduct at a climbing area, how can climbers enforce that code on other climbers? Are you concerned about losing access to climbing areas? Are you concerned about damage to local climbing areas (or the climbing experience) because of crowds or climbers who engage in inappropriate behavior? Should we be mainly concerned only about how our individual experiences are affected, or the experiences of all climbers? · It used to seem that climbing areas in different regions had their own community of climbers who agreed on codes of conduct. Is this still true, or has the growth of the sport and an increase in travel by climbers made regional standards less important? · Is it better for agencies to regulate climbers’ activities, or is it better for climbers to self-regulate (or is no regulation necessary at all)? · And so on. Any comments would be helpful. Thanks to everyone who has commented so far-M

I’m interested in any comments members might have about the related issues of climbing ethics and access to climbing areas. Some questions you may or may not consider: · Is there an understood code of conduct (or should there be) at local climbing areas related to style of ascent, gear replacement, or treatment of the physical (climbing and non-climbing) environment? Or treatment of other climbers and non-climbing recreationists? Would you voluntarily give up certain climbs or activites to conform to local codes of conduct? · Are you concerned about losing access to local climbing areas? Are you concerned about damage to local climbing areas (or the climbing experience) because of crowds or climbers who engage in inappropriate behavior? Should we be mainly concerned only about how our individual experiences are affected, or the experiences of all climbers? · It used to seem that climbing areas in different regions had their own community of climbers who agreed on codes of conduct. Is this still true, or has the growth of the sport and an increase in travel by climbers made regional standards less important? · What are your feelings about the way government agencies treat climbers as a recreation user group? Is it better for agencies to regulate climbers’ activities, or is it better for climbers to self-regulate (or is no regulation necessary at all)? · Do forums like these have an important function in bringing climbers together around access issues or codes of conduct? · If there is an accepted code of conduct at a climbing area, how can climbers “enforce’ that code on other climbers? You get the idea. Any comments would be helpful. I’m a grad student (and climber), and I don’t work for a government agency (at this time). Your comments will not be publicly reproduced; I just want to use them (maybe) for a small project. The same message will be posted in a number of forums in North America. Thanks, M

lost my Boreal ballets at snow creek trailhead, or maybe even at Pearly Gates. anyone find'em? email: markhusbands@yahoo.com