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Yes, corporate control over America has WITHERED before Ralph's searing wind! Or...did his actions greatly accelerate that process? Hmmmmm....... deregulation, privatization, outsourcing and take over of the state by corporations have been as rapid under Democrats as they have under Republicans.

while you morons have been lecturing us about "purity", Democratic politicians have enabled the neoliberal/neconservative agenda pretty much across the board. They are even coming for Social Security today, while Democrats aren't too sure whether or not they are going to defend the most successful public program in history. Keep talking about purity while the politcal landscape in Washington has moved ever further right for the last 30+ years.

That's not what Tvash says when he talks about Nader.

You do it for all the gay men and women who serve their country, that's why. I kind of thought that answer would be obvious, but I guess not. Keep your eyes on the prize, baby. as if his vote on DADT counterbalanced all the reactionary policies he pushed. It's not even close. what a lame argument.

There is little we can do about the right wing being mostly a bunch of nutjobs nowadays but we shouldn't mistake a common sense position on evolution for anything more than that.

Lieberman is a conservative on most everything. Having a Lieberman in the Democratic party is like not seeking to have a progressive represent his state. Why do it?

I understood you felt that way in prior discussions, not today. Are you saying you don't feel that way? I'd be glad to be wrong.

Lieberman was elected by the right wing vote and he paid them back tenfold but Tvash can't see that.

or telling us that corporate media consolidation and the lack of a diverse non-commercial media isn't an obstacle to establishing democracy.

it should be noted that tvash brought up the google hits analysis as if it were legitimate before prole's post ...

I never talked about google hits, you did. I only cited people who witnessed there was no coverage for almost 24 hrs in what are among the major leaders of news and minimal coverage from cable.

the "google hits analysis" wasn't mine but Tvash's as shown by prole.

and the drivel goes on ...

The point is precisely that if there was any chance it had an arab MO, whether or not it was a terror attempt, the media would have gone wild 24x7. They don't need no stinking evidence to "catapult the propaganda"

Can you quote me on that? Nope, didn't think so. But such an observation is irrelevant, as the event was reported on most media outlets appropriately. It's just not a very complicated story yet...since the investigation has yet to reveal anything (they still don't know who left the bomb). Plus, the investigation just started and the story is ongoing. A bit too early to cry 'cover up!!!!'...unless you need to. enough drivel. If it had an Arab MO the media would have gone wild 24x7 up to now. Everybody knows it and you are some fuckwit to pretend otherwise. End of story.

you haven't debunked anyhting. On the contrary I showed you were talking out of your ass when you claimed it wasn't true that Spokane wasn't reported like other terror attempts.

liar. You claimed that it wasn't true that Spokane wasn't reported like other terrorist attempts what senseless drivel. not a single assertion substantiated.

as everybody knows, in the world of propaganda, there is a big difference between a news black out, putting the news for one day on page 10 or putting it on the first page 24x7.

Nobody is making up that the corporate media mostly ignored the attempting bombing of an MLK march, while they usually hype up anything that could be construed as terrorism despite Tvash's claims to the contrary.

events like bombs planted in the middle of the public, which happened to be civil right marchers on MLK day.

when compared to their treatment of other events of a similar nature, its evidence of propaganda.

fucking troll.

is that a fact or not? as I said quit talking out of your ass for once.

did you read that nothing appeared on drudge or the NYT for almost 24hrs? isn't that a fact, retard!

Well I didn't get called a Dead Ender, only an End Talker. more non sequitur from you, but still no facts.