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"Americans strongly oppose laws taking away the collective bargaining power of public employee unions, according to a new USA TODAY/Gallup Poll. The poll found 61% would oppose a law in their state similar to such a proposal in Wisconsin, compared with 33% who would favor such a law." http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2011-02-22-poll-public-unions-wisconsin_N.htm Not that regressives care about what most Americans feel. Note that similar %s exist on almost every single issue in favor of progressive policies.

cut the crap. Public employees in WI have already said they agreed to make the concessions wanted on pension and whatnot. The only sticky point is collective bargaining, which clearly shows that this is about busting unions. Nothing more.

JayB is so concerned about someone extracting money from public coffers that he isn't even going to mention tax breaks for cronies of the GOP that caused the "shortfall" that Walker claims he wants to address. JayB, as usual, much prefers falsely demonizing public workers.

Liar! public workers aren't earning ("extracting") more than private sector workers for equivalent skill despite your drivel about their occupations not being as vital as private sector jobs (what a pathetic moron!)

right, war is peace and paying teachers less will improve education. Did you fall on your head as a child?

despite the propaganda and the rank stupidity of those who believe in it, 200,000 outsourced jobs per year have very little to do with automation.

bullshit. Jobs are outsourced not because of automation but because of dirt cheap labor and no environmental regulation in developing nations. You have already played that trick on us several times.

There's lots of fields of study that have much to commend them even if they aren't the least bit useful in generating an income - but studies that attempt to correlate pay and credentials aren't the place to indulge in completely subjective value judgments about what a given degree should be worth in some fictional world where there's an equal demand for all degrees. What? because education isn't absolutely necessary for our economy? or all of the functions performed by public secotr workers: we don't need the freakin nurses, sanitation workers, etc JayB? Aren't these people as necessary as all others? what the fuck are you talking about?

don't pretend we can compete with slave labor in developing nations and it'll be fine, like it was before you imposed your "free trade" scam (I.e. NAFAT, etc..).

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more fuzzy arithmetic from laissez faire boy. Education isn't worth anything according to this joker since schools don't directly make money. Is this supposed to pass for intellectualism in your parts?

YOU don't get to pick and chose what taxes you'd like ot pay. Nobody else does, except for the obscenely rich that you shill for (like the Koch brothers). ANyway, you benefit indirectly from an educated population but we have already gone over this and it's not like I expect you to get it.

So you don't know. Compelling accusation you haven't made. 99.999% of mostly rural counties are subsidized by folks from the big city so it isn't a stretch to strongly suspect you belong to that list. we already know that you like to pay as little as you can for labor irrespective of whether it constitutes a living wage. As long as less comes out of your pocket you couldn't give a shit about anybody else.

Its in my profile, dumbass. So your services and infrastructure are most probably being subsidized. And here you are trying to deny public workers a fair wage when they already get paid less than private sector workers. What an hypocritical blowhard you make.

You are lying. Public employees earn less than private sector employees. There is no alternative but to pay people a living wage.

Well I pay the taxes so that doesn't exactly make me a leech now does it? tell me where you live and if it's in a rural area, you are likely being subsidized.

until they need to pool their resources with the community, hypocrites. How does Nitrox drive to his compound? On roads he paid for by himself, perhaps? sheesh.

Strange, I'm middle class and every time the local government employees get a raise I have to pay for it. There was a school district budgetary shortfall two years ago (they claimed a book keeping error) and my property taxes went up significantly. Neither represent my interests. nothing is keeping you from moving to Somalia where you won't pay taxes and won't be able to leech your way off taxpayer funded services and infrastructure.

The Republican Strategy by Robert Reich The Republican strategy is to split the vast middle and working class – pitting unionized workers against non-unionized, public-sector workers against non-public, older workers within sight of Medicare and Social Security against younger workers who don’t believe these programs will be there for them, and the poor against the working middle class. By splitting working America along these lines, Republicans want Americans to believe that we can no longer afford to do what we need to do as a nation. They hope to deflect attention from the increasing share of total income and wealth going to the richest 1 percent while the jobs and wages of everyone else languish. Republicans would rather no one notice their campaign to shrink the pie even further with additional tax cuts for the rich – making the Bush tax cuts permanent, further reducing the estate tax, and allowing the wealthy to shift ever more of their income into capital gains taxed at 15 percent. more: Divide and Conquer

unions represent the interests of the middle class. The Koch brothers represent the plutocracy. Can you tell the difference?

so, how do these unions dollars compare to the $100s million given by corporations and the wealthy to regressive candidates?

NYT: "State records also show that Koch Industries, their energy and consumer products conglomerate based in Wichita, Kan., was one of the biggest contributors to the election campaign of Gov. Scott Walker of Wisconsin, a Republican who has championed the proposed cuts. Even before the new governor was sworn in last month, executives from the Koch-backed group had worked behind the scenes to try to encourage a union showdown, Mr. Phillips said in an interview on Monday." Koch brothers play big money role in effort to crush unions

Whiny bitch. here comes the sexual demonizing by the service thug

come on we have already seen the hatchet job O'Keefe did on ACORN, and more. That dude should be in jail and nobody should trust any video published by that criminal.

Liar