Wow - two pages on this subject. Enough is enough, but wanted to get my dog's picture up on the site.
eric - wasn't going to trash him, but when i started getting reports (now up to three) on this guy, general safety is a bit more important than tactfulness. I got no problem going and doing 5.7 single pitch routes for a day or two - just like getting out and can learn something wherever. But this guy just ain't receptive to mentoring. He just wouldn't admit he was uncomfortable with something even after repeated falls.
Here is an edited excerpt from one email i received: "just thought i'd add my horror story to your list. Climbed with him ... and the cruxes were over his head, even though he talked confidently about doing it. He tried to lead one crux, fell about 10 times and finally lowered down and said it was too tough for him. It was really no problem for a 5.9. He got to it following me and grabbed the rope and hauled his way up that way. This was his way to get through many of the semi-difficult parts...
Constantly throughout the day, I kept hearing up rope even if I was holding him on a tight belay. As soon as he would move, he would say up rope. After awhile I was very uncomfortable with him belaying me and was tempted to head back down. But I figured I could pretty much solo the rest of it, if I had too. He even got off route about 2 or 3 times when he was leading."
Mehrdad: as far as wanting to retreat - yeah sure. I was afraid for my future continued existence on this plane. And yeah i run it out a bit on 5.4-7 areas, but on a hand crack that is fairly uniform in size gear conservation for harder sections is the way to go. And how is it that you were pointing out the holds to me when you didn't lead a single pitch?
Actually pitbulls come in rather handy. Ever in a crowded area, get up early, chain the dog to the route, and then go back to bed for awhile.
Happy climbing all.
[ 07-23-2002, 02:04 PM: Message edited by: RikRik ]