AlpineK & Co., 
  
Sorry about all the shit on SP (at least my posts)...I thought the people posting were some non-climbing 15 year old little bastards with nothing better to do, so I just hammered 'em back.  Fortunately, I finally clicked on a link to this thread by one of the SP'ers, and Alex was also pretty cool in explaining the scene over here. 
  
I did think Scotty's post about Dick P was rather lame....one post, he's hammering us for getting all over Dick, and then the next post he's praising us.  Give me a break.   
  
AlpineK...sorry about the crack regarding the parents.  You're lucky to have been "born" into it...wish I was. 
  
Dana