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Try visualizing the context as being totally local and face to face.
You know them. They know you.
Your kids go to the same school, wives talk at the grocery store, etc.
Would we be willing to publicly display a blatantly disrespectful cartoon to our neighbors who are Muslim?
Probably not.
Would they threaten to kill us if we did?
Probably not.
But here we are in a global society linked by unprecidented communications capabilities.
We cannot continue to proceed as though nothing has changed.
We are all neighbors now and have to adjust our thinking.
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Vertical orientation is marginally stronger than horizontal according to some ACMG stuff i remember reading.
I looked at that and thought yikes too.
Any links available?
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I was up on the ice about 2 miles up Commonweath today. It is deteriorating but still in. I kicked through in two spots and there is a big chunk in the center that has fallen.
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So, we’re indicting the whole body of ideas that comprise the religion and its entire legion of followers due to some high profile reactions to a political cartoon? Satire is a great way to send a political message but at what point does it mutate from being relatively benign to becoming socially malignant? I would ask if there are hands that seek to manipulate the scenes in the world play.
Are the initiatory acts intentional? Not that the unequal response is justified but if the reaction can be predicted with some certainty, then isn’t the initiator also guilty of a provocative act? Is it criminal? For instance, is it criminal to participate in a conspiracy to incite a riot?
Sure, in a Machiavellian sense, religion is a vehicle that propagates ideas which can be manipulated or corrupted to serve a purpose which appears antithetical to the general good that’s inculcated by the social body characteristic of a religion. So, the question becomes can we discern the purpose behind the hands that manipulate the scenes or are these simple intentional acts of small purpose that more or less are random?
Is it too sinister and conspiratorial to propose that the intelligence organizations are the movers behind the scenes, that we are pawns whose perceptions are influenced for larger purposes? Is it just coincidence that the Nigerian would be bomber serves as the impetus to escalate the war in Yemen and to initiate further restrictive measures here? A useful idiot?
Shooting a person over a cartoon drawing is stupid. Issuing a Fatwa for a drawing, a book, a comment, is stupid. Not being able to draw an image that you want to draw is stupid.
Not bending from any position in a global society is stupid.
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Finally!
Now we can start getting you heathens under control.
Or at least force you underground where you belong.
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Those aren't her breasts.
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Here's what seems so ironic to me about Islam considering images of the Prophet Muhammad as blasphemous:
They don't allow images of the likeness of Muhammad and yet so many of their people go by the name "Muhammad" (and with that exact spelling). So if I am a person with the name Muhammad, doesn't that mean that my face could be the image of Muhammad?
It just seems funny to me that images of his likeness are not allowed but naming a son after his likeness is okay. It would seem like the latter would be an even more egregious transgression.
I tried to convey this irony to a Muslim co-worker and he didn't get me at all.
Sounds like a troll but....Islam forbids the making of images of any living thing.
Not even a cat.
The Persians incorporated Islam into their religion(s) and so you will see images of people, horses etc in Persian art. But the rest of Islam will not attempt to "immitate Allah's creative powers".
That was why enlightened Taliban officials had the 800 year old stone carvings of Buddah destroyed.
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I was up the Commonwealth basin today. 2" wet on top of hard breakable crust with 1' soft snow beneath that.
It was cooling off when I left and snowing hard off and on.
Might drop another couple inches tonight at that rate.
Pretty un fun skiing.
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There are lawers who make a living off of incidents like that.
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Do you REALLY want to open this can?
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Time to go slow shoeing with my kind and giving wife.
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Maybe you're just jealous of our impetuous youth Dane?
I stick by my assessment. Narcissist. Avoid him. Thank you Will.
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Welcome jabbers.
I am from MT also. It is an easy transition once you figure out where all the good climbing is.
I'm old, decrepid, married, applying for "The Biggest Loser" etc so you can't live here.
But I know of another Climber Montana transplant in his twenties who might know something useful.
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The info is only as useful as the gps is precise.
After 911 the gps sattellites were scaled back for public use and gps coordinates were marginal at best.
I use the gps to mark endpoints on traverses and crevasse edges.
The difference between getting three sattellites and two means being off by 20-50 meters instead of 1 to 9.
Nothing ever came of it as the weather held both times my gps was affected.
The gps in the car is a different application. It takes your coordinates, plots them on a map and then give you instructions based on your beginning, end, and current locations. The amount od data processing is way higher and so, more prone to error.
Safe enough for in town travel imo but not in the mountains.
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I'm pouring a drink and calling it a day.
Avy danger is low tomorrow so get out and climb.
Cheers.
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That was me.
Ease a bit.
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Only liberals hate.
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I know we are very different.
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Happy new year K.
Spray is a sick place for too many of us.
I hope we can all find a better approach to "debating" our differences in 2010.
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I post about what you have actually posted.
You regularly post "lick sack", "STFU", "libtard", etc.
All you can come up with as a counter are week associations conjured up in your angry mind.
Obfuscation is not constructive.
You cannot simultaneously resolve a problem and obfuscate a problem.
But I suspect you do not come to spray to resolve anything but your need to vent anger.
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Is he working for positive change in a constructive manner? Hell no.
Rush equates to hate.
bullshit.
if you cited Michael Savage, I'd probably grant you the point.
you really aren't so stupid and simple-minded Bug, are you?
If you do not see the hatered that seethes out of Rush then you are truely not worth debating with.
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Libtards are so full of hate
kkkonservatives are always so upset when they see libs hating on someone, but in the new millenium hating is bipartisan and not just for kkkonservatives. you need to get in step with the times, kkk.
how many conservatives were dancing on Ted Kennedy's grave when he died this year? show me the cc.com right-wing hate-on-ted thread
you libtards OTOH are consumed with hate. You hate Rush, you hate Sarah Palin, hate hate hate. For you all it's about more than disagreement with a POV, it's about wishing ill and gleefully enjoying any misfortune that befalls your political adversaries. you are most all sick, twisted fucks.
Thus spoke the tard who uses "tard" in every single comment about liberals.
[TR] Alpental + Leavenworth Ice - 12/25/2009
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Thank you.