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Ausgezeichnet!
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Where was the overwhelming outrage when Mt. Garfield was rap-bolted in your own backyard??infinite bliss is awesome. if you dont like it dont climb it, and quit bitching about it.
Answer the question, jack-donkey!
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"Siege climb in progress" means that anybody who wishes to climb the route is given only two options. He can either trust the gear of somebody he doesn't know, or he can wait six months until the "free climbers" have moved on. What's worse, monopolizing a route on public land or removing the gear with the intent of keeping it? But, this is sport climbing at Smith Rock. Ain't it wonderful?
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what does "natural protection" mean, anyway? do cams and stoppers grow on trees somewhere?
my vote: who gives a fuck.
Looooooooozer!
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Beneath the Sands of Egypt. Available now. Read my copy in two days. Gets rave reviews including my own. And it has climbing adventures in exotic locations.
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Next time a controversial topic surfaces (for example, fixed-anchor ethics), instead of immediately demoting the topic to spray, DO YOUR JOB! Please cleanse the exchanges of all insults, locker-room talk, personal attacks, ridiculous analogies, etc. When (and if) this happens, I’ll be happy to attach my full name to my comments.
Given that these threads are usually started by either Raindawg or you in an insulting manner, are you asking me to delete the entire thread? This isn't a JOB, since I don't get paid, and babysitting your pet rant is not really what I want to do for hours a day, every day. Your rants are not an asset to the site. You want custom service? PAY ME A DECENT WAGE.
I’d be happy to moderate a forum on climbing ethics and style. I’ll work for free. How refreshing would it be to discuss one of the most important issues of modern climbing in a spray-free forum? There is no lack of interest in the topic….I suspect such a forum would generate plenty of traffic, pleasing both site owners and sponsors. I also think we’d hear from a greater number of participants representing a broad spectrum of attitudes in a forum where spray is not tolerated.
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Pope, I looked into your issue. I even took the time to talk to the person who posted your name, which BTW wasn't breaking any privacy rules on this website, but I'll get to that part in a minute. Upon asking said "third world citizen" about the incident, the person said he would have had no problem removing your name from his post if you hadn't been such a dick to him about it in a PM. At which point I dropped it on my end.
Hi Jon. Check your PM's. I sent you a copy of my request to Dru to remove my name. Decide for yourself whether I had been rude or confrontational. I don't think he's being truthful.
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Are you sure you haven't misquoted this individual? As I recall, he said:
"People have a right to anonymous man sex in Turkish bath houses."
Honestly, I cut and pasted this quote straight from my PM's. Since I happen to believe in this dictate, and since its source is a man even more important than OW....even more important than MattP himself....I'm going to protect his identity.
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"People have a right to stay anonymous [on cc.com]...."
Who said this?
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Thread drift! Moderators, move this to SPRAY at once!
This topic is in SPRAY, And was started in SPRAY...
You're the smart one, aren't you?
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Killing under the pretense of discouraging killing sends a fairly ambiguous message.
Thread drift! Moderators, move this to SPRAY at once! Listen, if one thing is obvious, it is the pervasion of ADD among recent contributors to this thread. Let's stay on topic here.....which is....if I remember, the notion that one should not make a statement on a controversial topic (like grid-bolting on Mt. Garfield) w/o disclosing his/her identity.
There is no small number of reasons why contributors to these discussions wish to remain at large, not the least of which is that foul-mouthed guys like Choda Boy and Dick Head inevitably degrade our high-brow discourse to locker-room talk. The quality of these exchanges is not something with which many of us wish to have our real names associated. It’s nothing less than amusing that guys anointed with the powers of moderation (OWhite, for example) suggest that contributors such as I wouldn’t stand behind our statements if only the general readership were aware of our real identities. Joke.
In the words of one of my true heroes, not to mention one of the founders of this website, “People have a right to stay anonymous, I guess Matt doesn't agree. I'll make sure your name is erased that Dru posted so you can reconsider.”
This is a promise made to me when I asked …..Gee, this is a long story. Once upon a time, some prick from a third-world country (think it was Canada) started throwing my name around in the Alpine Lakes forum. I asked MattP (you know the guy……he who once was given the prestigious Alpine Buddy award by me and Dwayner) to “correct the problem”. He said, something to the effect that I shouldn’t expect him to do his job as moderator. So, I went straight to the top, asking one of the site’s owners to help “correct the problem”. He promised to help. I’m still waiting. Although he did offer some kind of philosophical statement….. see the quote above.
Where am I going with this? Oh yes, a challenge……to the moderators of this site, many who claim to be “liberals”…….you know, vanguards of the free exchange of ideas, protectors of the environment, champions of minorities, etc. Next time a controversial topic surfaces (for example, fixed-anchor ethics), instead of immediately demoting the topic to spray, DO YOUR JOB! Please cleanse the exchanges of all insults, locker-room talk, personal attacks, ridiculous analogies, etc. When (and if) this happens, I’ll be happy to attach my full name to my comments.
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Skinny Puppy, DT, WY.
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Dickhead has a very valid point. Until you've actually gone out and put in the extensive time, hard work and $$$ of visualizing and then creating a high quality rock climb you simply don't get a voice in the discussion because you have no clue what your talking about. Seriously, it will change your perspective on the conversation.
If there is one ethic everyone seems to respect it's the style of the first ascensionist. If youy don't like the style with which other people are establishing routes then go out and show them how it's done. Until then you just sound stupid.
Well said, my thoughts exactly.
So many inspirational new routes have gone up this last couple years.
Want to make your point? Do it the old fashoned way.
Here, let me try:
Until you've cut down an old-growth cedar tree in a national park, until you've invested the enormous amount of energy and vision required to create a picnic table from that tree, and until you've busted your ass hauling that picnic table up from tree line and carefully placed it in an appropriate alpine meadow, "....you simply don't get a voice in the discussion because you have no clue what your [sic] talking about. Seriously, it will change your perspective on the conversation."
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the only way to go is down
Please don't pee all over this inspirational thread with what is obviously a satement of your predisposition.
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i hope u realize how blessed (and i don't mean this in a biblical sense) u are marc.
And why's that? The cute girl? Or the fact that he's at Squamish and nowhere close to Portland?
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so after having sampled some scotch over the years, i never understood how people could choke the stuff down. i thought it to be another humanoid affectation, like tattoos or fetish amputations. laphroaig 10 year comes to mind: ummmm i'll take the hickory smoke flavor for 3.99 a bottle at fred meyers thank you.
but then a friend gave me some glenlivet 12 yr, and it made sense. i could actually ENJOY this crap, cuz there were flavors to pick out, like flowers and fruit and stuff. neat!
so i'm looking for other recommendations. what are the scotch drinker's favorites, and, importantly, why? what are the reasons and flavors and etc that makes ya want this one?
This is what sport climbers discuss when they want to feel macho.
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An option I enjoyed once is similar to what Dane describes. We overnighted at the base of the West Ridge, climbed the North (upper) Ridge and down the West Ridge, picked up minimal biv gear and out. From our camp, the North Ridge is very close making for an early summit. Just don't go too late in the summer because that bivi will be bone dry.
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less than 15,000 thousand sport pitched in N.A.?!?! Untrue. there are well over 3k in oregon alone. I'm sure there are less in WA only because OR has smith, but consider nevada, arizona, montana, BC, wyoming, colorado, new york and...i think i'm missing one...oh yeah, California...got to be close to 6 or 7k there, atleast. Then add crags from Mexico. Way more than 15,000 sport routes.
And each one is just a little different than the two starting 5 feet away from it.
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How many sport climbs do you suppose there are in N.A.? Average bolt count per climb? Worldwide?
maybe 10 bolts a route on average...definitely less than a 100,000 sport routes...
i'd say 15,000 sport pitches would be optimistic...that's 150,000 bolts...
And that ain't enough, is it now?
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I don't know everything there is to know about Timson, but his climb on Givler's Dome is a superb example of restrained bolting and ground-up climbing. I recall having a far more favorable opinion of chasing bolts when there were just a few routes like that to be found in Leavenworth. Regarding Midnight Rock photos, I have a few that I thought were pretty nice, scanned from Ektachrome slides. Pretty sure they're on my work computer so give me a day or two.
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5.16 !!!!!
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Nothing like getting chatted up by some strange guy in a sauna.Really? Hey, if that what's you're into. Just watch out for the "deadliest catch".
Class Warfare, Heartland USA,: Wisconsin
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Actually, there's another option, when wages offered together with prevailing working conditions fail to attract qualified candidates. The state can/does hire poorly qualified candidates. Not long ago, a local school district posted three teaching positions for high-school mathematics. Precisely three applied, and three were hired. Each had earned a bachelor’s degree, not one in mathematics. Not one was even minimally qualified according to state standards to teach secondary mathematics. In fact, not one was licensed by the state to teach. Yet they were hired. I guess they had a pulse and a temperature, and via some “emergency” clause, they joined the force, with the understanding they would begin work on certification. One guy made it beyond the first year. Friday at lunch some members of his department explained to him how to solve the equation log(10^x)=3.
I agree with the theory….let the free market (the labor market) dictate wages. If only that were the way it worked, I’d probably be making double my salary. Then I could give up my second job, and I probably wouldn’t have to pay a health care premium for my family equal to almost half my mortgage.