jon Posted October 3, 2001 Share Posted October 3, 2001 Here is an email I just got from Scott Silver. Note that I will be moving all Fee Demo related discussion to this new forum. Jon ------------------------------------------ Opposition to fee-demo within the climbing community is steadily mounting. Pasted below, for example, are the comments of the Kentucky-based Red River Gorge Climbers' Coalition on Rec. Fee-Demo. It's nice to see so many additional organizations coming out against fee-demo and encouraging their members to become actively involved in this issue. Its especially nice to see interest developing in the Eastern portion of the nation. Scott PS.... For those climbers and outdoor types who would like to discuss this issue online, there is an active fee-demo discussion taking place at the Cascade Climbers web site. To participate, go to http://www.cascadeclimbers.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?action=intro&default=1 and search for "fee demo". PPS.... the Access Fund's opposition to fee-demo can be read at http://www.accessfund.org/programs/programs_news_pr.html ------- begin quoted ------- http://www.rrgcc.org/index.php?action=view_article&article_id=64 © Copyright 2001 - Red River Gorge Climbers' Coalition - All Rights Reserved RRGCC - PO BOX 22156 - Lexington, KY 40522-2156 - RRGCC@RRGCC.org The Recreation Fee Demonstration Program Last April the Daniel Boone National Forest implemented a "fee for use," an overnight parking fee, under the 1997 Recreation Fee Demonstration Program. The money collected from overnight parking is being used to provide some improved services for forest visitors, such as better trash receptacles, trash removal services, and additional law enforcement. The Recreation Fee Demonstration Program was adopted as part of the 1997 federal budget package. This year Congress decides whether to make the Recreation Fee Demonstration program permanent or not. The RRGCC, the Access Fund, the Sierra Club, and many other groups, oppose the Fee Demo Program and encourage everyone to read more about the program, get the facts, decide for themselves and let their political representatives know how they feel. The Recreation Fee Demonstration Program was adopted as part of the 1997 federal budget package. The program was given an initial three-year life to test its applicability and benefit to agencies and public land visitors. The program was meant to supplement budgets and meet shortfalls from Congressional appropriations due to budget constraints. In other words, Congress decided to try a test. Forest visitors would be charged a fee, in some parts of the country to "enter" the forest, or in other parts of the country to "use" the forest in certain ways, such as camping overnight. These fees have been called fees for access (to enter the forest) and fees for use (for example, to use the forest to camp in). If these fees "worked" (i.e., gave land managers, such as the Forest Service, enough money to fill in the gaps in their budget) then they would go from being a test to being permanent. They are still in the testing stage and not considered "law" per se in some jurisdictions. In fact, in California where campers refused to pay the fee the court ruled in favor of the campers saying that the program is for "demonstration purposes" and did not have the force of a federally mandated law, yet. Until Congress makes the Recreation Fee Program permanent the court viewed the Fee Demo Program "voluntary" and therefore unenforceable. In fact, the Forest Service and other agencies view every fee paid as a vote in favor of the program by the American public and evidence to make the Fee Demo Program permanent, but only "unpaid" fees are registered as a no vote. Many people and groups, including the Access Fund and the Sierra Club, are opposed to the collection of fees from the American public to use or visit their own forests. Despite the obvious need for more money for our forests, many feel the correct solution is for Congress to give land managers more money collected from our taxes and not charge the American people twice for the same thing. The two main criticisms of the Demonstration Fee Program are: it is inherently unfair to people who cannot afford the additional fee, and it would allow Congress to continue to reduce the Forest Service's budget. This year Congress decides whether to make the Recreation Fee Demonstration program permanent or not. You can tell Congress what you think and whether you want to pay for public lands use and management through your already collected income taxes, or through use and entry fees collected in our forests. We think the better way is to have Congress stop reducing land management agency budgets and to increase funding for recreation and resource management programs, and sustain these improved funding levels in the future. What do you think? To learn more about why people are opposed to this program visit .www.freeourforests.org. Personal letters through regular mail are the best way to let congress know how you feel on this issue. To find your representative and their address visit a www.senate.gov. or www.house.gov. We will be posting more information on this issue. Click on "Access Issues" on our menu to read the Access Fund's position on the Fee Demo Program. ------- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Scott Silver Wild Wilderness 248 NW Wilmington Ave. Bend, OR 97701 phone: 541-385-5261 e-mail: ssilver@wildwilderness.org Internet: http://www.wildwilderness.org ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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