dan_e Posted February 21, 2001 Posted February 21, 2001 I've tried this thing on several ice climbs this season and so far it works great for belaying with my twin 8's, but it is horrible for rapping. If the v-notch side is used there is too much friction and or jamming, if the U-side notch side is used there is not enough friction (scary!). Since I don't want to carry two devices (SBG and the ATC) it will go into my collection of unused belay/rappel devices. I may try another type of device that has the V-notches, until then it's back to the trusty ole' ATC. Quote
AJ Posted February 21, 2001 Posted February 21, 2001 My experience with this device is limited to two days this winter, but I liked it. We were using single ropes and I was able to lower my partner 50 meters smoothly and without having to use an extra change in direction. The device also worked well when belaying a second up a pitch. I never got to belay a leader, but the device doesn't lock up when you are pulling in slack and shouldn't when you are feeding slack through either. I'm still going to use my Trango Pyramid until I have enough time to decide if I like the Omega more. (I prefer the Trango Pyramid to the ATC, but I can understand why a lot of people like the ATC.) For what it is worth - the Metolius BRD is a pain and I would not recommend it. Quote
Guest Posted February 21, 2001 Posted February 21, 2001 I've been using the device since early January on 9mm ropes. Originally bought for its larger holes so I don't struggle to cram a 10.5 in during belay switches and on multiple rappels in the evening and to prevent locking when feeding the rope out fast. -Larger hole size definitely works well (used last weekend w/2 10.5's); -It shouldn't lock by design; -Rapping works better than I thought after bad experience w/Trango's Jaws thingy, I easily locked with the left hand on the U side to take a screw off on rappel, in fact it felt better than any other device so far; -Easy to lose when feeding the rope in/out. With ATC and alikes it is usually possible to feed in/take out always having the device somehow hooked to the carabiner by the wire loop. With SBG one can only feed the rope in/take out conveniently if the device is completely detached from the 'biner. *Don't* fumble with it, especially on longer, expedition type outings!!! Value: it's good, worth trying which I'll continue for the rest of the year. If considering a new device I'd advise this one against the "Jaws", Metolius and any other non-conventional shape, if happy with what you have no reason to spend extra money unless you like just trying new gear (like me). NOTE: I have not tried Metolius belay device in "field conditions"! [This message has been edited by rafael (edited 02-26-2001).] [This message has been edited by rafael (edited 02-27-2001).] Quote
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