Rodrigo

Greetings, "... are a horrid and utter bullshit of people, who don't even bother checking some basic sources like AAJ, Mountain or Vertical." My name is Rodrigo, I'm from Brazil, and I work in cooperation with Altamontanha, Explorersweb and Russianclimb. I am here to answer to the attacks from "glasgowkiss". I collect info about winter climbs for many years. And before my statement on Explorersweb ("Also, Italian Simone Moro is now the undisputed leader in winter, the only climber in history who has bagged three 8000ers completely in winter") I have consulted AJ, AAJ, Himalayan Database, and other sources. And, above all, I had interviwed seveal and several clibmers to consolidate a definition of what a winter climb should be. The actual definition is acceped by all climbers nowadays, and you can see that all the expeditions to 8000er in winter from 2007-on follow these rules, with all of them arriving at BC AFTER the beginning of the calendar winter. There are no innacuracies. On previous articles on ExWeb there are full explanations on what a "REAL" winter ascent is (all the events of the expedition, from arrival at BC until departure, must take place in calendar winter). I respect at most the Polish climbers (some of them are my idols - Wielicki, Berbeka, Kukuczka, etc.), but we have to admit that some of the "winter climbs" of the 80s were performed partially in Autumn and only the summit push was in wintertime (like Wielicki on Lhotse). So, they are not expeditions "completely in winter". So, Simone Moro is the only climber so far who has bagged three COMPLETE winter ascents (all the events of his expeditions are in calendar winter). A hug from Brazil, Rodrigo Granzotto Peron