Hey all I am looking for a decent pair of gloves to use on Rainier, Adams, etc.  I would also like to be able to use them in the winter for skiing.  I had a pair of OR Alti Gloves, but they seemed too bulky and didn't feel that great when gripping a ski pole.  Would to OR Arete's work on Rainier, or do I need something more substantial?  I am trying to get something with a liner.  Thanks.