gorgeouos

watch out wimsey, this woman is gunning for you. http://www.ktvz.com/Global/story.asp?s=11379962 she doesn't even leave the trailhead until 1pm in late October!

edit: sorry no link, it's behind a paywall. from Bend Bulletin, September 11

snow can make it faster if you're heading up while it's still firm

I guess the guidebook and I are wrong. Sorry, I'll drop it.

Sure, Zion is the name of the linkup of Zebra and Lions Chair. Nowhere in the guide do you see anything refered to as "Zebra Zion." Look in the index: Zion -page what ever Look in the FA list: Zion, J Thompson 1977 etc By your reasoning I'd think you'ld call the route Zebra_Chair or ZebraZionLion or something

A 50m will work, not that anyone uses one anymore. BTW, the route is simply "Zion," not sure why everyone says zebra_zion.

Thanks for the history. It is very interesting which routes have evidence of prior accent and which appear to have been ignored. How is it possible that Two Step was climbed but not Gold Rush?! U1 but not Space Between? Why would a 5.13 crack climber who has scoured NA for first and second accents of the best cracks climb one route and never return? Bizarre

I think these both happened after guide 2.0 was out. I'm wondering which routes motivated the need for the original guide as described by bugabooed at the top.

Just curious, what routes were done to the top and later had anchors added? Also, my 2¢, TC is a full blown area now (amazing that took so long in this day and age) and withholding info does little except to perpetuate the attitude issues here in c.o. Not to say that the folks climbing at TC in 2001 2002 had attitude issues. But its not uncommon to hear "I just moved here and the locals are such jerks. No one will say anything except how to get to Meadow Camp." Two years later: "Just checked out an awesome new stash of stone, we're tryin to keep it on the downlow.." And on and on it goes...