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And why should you care if he is. Do you work for money? The company you work for (if you work), do they work, buy and sell product or services for profit?

Bump, offers??

I have two, one smaller fits 17-19 adjustable and one bayonet 43-43-43, 18.5, 32" CM belt, extension, older one but in great shape. Only used a few days for the past several years. $250.00.

I have one, has always worked as promised. A happy wife is a happy life!

WTB, tickets for Banff Film in Northbend Please email thesmithgroup(at)windermere.com or call 425-200-7163

Please email thesmithgroup(at)windermere.com or call 425-200-7163

I'm looking for a FF Volant Jacket Event L or XL and/or pant, or equivalent and a FF -10 to -25 bag R or L in new or like new condition. Let me know what you have.

You think encouraging youth to work for their money instead of waiting for free handouts is negatively adding to the world? Its cause of that that every kid out there refuses to work for their money. You want cams go get a fucking job like every other person out there, its called reality. Where did I say anything about encouraging youth not to work in my post? What I was commenting about is people who make posts and statements like this do not add anything positive to the world. "Every Kid" ???? Pretty broad general and ridiculous statement isn't? Without taking any time to prove how ignorant your comments are, Quit embarrassing yourself.

Dane, I'll support you 100%. Let me know how I can help as well. I think the hardest part of this would be to correctly identify the receiptants but I also know that you will do this as best as can be done. I would like to suggest a post dedicated to the precipitants and their thoughts as well so that others can see for themselves the difference, even a small amount voluntarism or giving can make in not only their lives but in the lives of others as well. Dane, I would encourage you and all others not to let the "small thinkers" of the world dampen the spirt and add more negatively to the world. There will always be those who always want to dump on anything and everyone regardless of their own pitiful lives as there feeling sorry for the decisions they made and the situations that they caused for themselves. Garbage in = Garbage out. The universe has a way to assure that everyone receives in proportion to what they give-out as a value to others, it is a universal law and guaranteed to happen. I have seen it time and time again. It so often seems those same sorry folks look for and expect favor but never offer anything of themselves to others, but, in amazement, they expect it in return. Tis the season, no?

"the hille jannu seems to get more bang for buck and greater versatility. the hille jannu seems to offer greater space without a huge weight penalty." IMO, think you made the right choice. You will love the Hille. Call Petra or Stuart Craig and talk to them or go to thier Redmond office and take a walk thru and try and see one for yourself. I love the Hille hoop tents for everything but ledges, and for ledges and small platforms their high camps tents like the Jannu is great and has been proven even on Everest and K2 now. BTW, I have a brand new MH Trango 3 for sale to make room for another Hille.

I would agree 100%. http://estore.websitepros.com/1764795/-strse-68/Hilleberg-Jannu-Ultralight-Tent/Detail.bok Smaller, still lighter and still more room. I had an EV2, great tent, and for me it was too small more of a one man tent especially in winter use and I prefer having a vestibule barrier.

I have several of the HB tents including the Kaitium 3GT and would highly recommend them, they are simply the best with the most room to weight and simply to set up without crawling inside etc... and the folks there are great to work with and stand behind there stuff 100%.

http://estore.websitepros.com/1764795/-strse-167/Hilleberg-Kaitum-2-GT/Detail.bok IMO, Just as light, bomber and twice the space.

Back on market.

Sent Pm, I'll take it after seeing photos.

EV2= 1 man tent

Still available

Dan everyone I have had the pleasure of speaking with about Mchale packs have only good things to say. I know that in years past Dan's packs have been known to be the most comfortable, the best load carriers, and absolutely bomb proof even maybe too much so at the expense of being too heavy to accomplish that. Over the years Dan seems to have made a lot of changes in designs and materials to keep up-to-date with technology with all of the good stuff his packs are known for and now makes much lighter packs but still out of the best materials. I know it is really a joy to use my and I find myself looking forward to using it, odd as it may seem. You know what I find interesting here, is that with most great products you always find a lot of happy and impressed clients and usually always at least a few unhappy ones, that is expected. However, with Mchale packs I have never met the latter and before I order a new one I would be interested in hearing from anyone with positive, and even more helpful negative, experiences or input. There has to be someone.

Price has nothing to do with it. Although higher price in my experience is usually associated with a far superior product. You know when you find a product that is so nice, works so perfect for you that you are always excited to always use it? When it flawlessly out preforms everything that you have ever tried and not by a little but by a ton? And each and every time you use it, it is purely pleasure and bliss? And everyone you know or meet who also tries it has the same opinion and/or experience? Then, while not mandatory, it is almost obligatory to tell others so they too can enjoy the same experience. Cheers! BTW, Regarding cost: Dyneema® 60 WorkSack Item# 600247 $650.

Nope, you are not the same person I was referring to. However, I do believe that several weekends ago we may have ran across each other at the bottom of the Muir snow field if you were resting with a partner when I inquired about if you had any salt as I had a leg that kept cramping up and you gave me a hand full of cashews if I recall. During our conversation you loudly complained about your pack and went as far as to show me the marks and bruises resulting from on your hips and like the other person offered to sell me your pack for cheap mostly from what I perceived as frustration and displeasure. A conversation about Mchale packs followed and I suggested that since you work at the store it only would make sense for you to call crackers (CILO) as they seem to have a good rep and a good product and I'm sure they would take care of you. I did also offer you the opportunity to try my pack, but I don't think you ever did try my pack on. Welcome! and Many thanks again for your help, and its good to hear that you got your pack issues all figured out as I thought you would. Its a great pack.

Matt, I'll be in Seattle today and would be happy to take them for our fund raising projects. Sent you a PM.

REI, Marmot and F. Friends all have them. Whitaker's has them on sale too.

"CCW, Wild Things and Cilo pretty much cover the best of the climbing packs." I would also concur. I love the Cilo for Alpine use as well and would like to buy one. However, this post is titled "Expedition pack recommendation". To me there is a huge difference between back packing or expedition type climbing hauling loads and short and fast alpine climbing rigs for one day or weekend packs for quick trips to the crags in the cascades as well as consideration for styles such as Alpine or expedition trips with multi-week trips to the large mountain ranges. Two different packs for two different uses. I for one would not use a climbing sac for an expedition trip nor would I carry 40-60 pounds in a alpine type "sac" as I value comfort over self imposed suffering, but I'm sure others will. Just last week I ran into a female climber coming down from Rainier wearing a new Cilo who works in the industry, at a climbing store in Seattle, who was suffering with 40 or so pounds and extremely unhappy with her choice of packs for what she was using in for. I suggested she call crackers who she said she bought it from. She offered me her alpine sac on the spot for $100.00 several times, I graciously declined. To prove my point, I let her carry my load from mid snowfield down for a while which had 65-70 pounds of water and lead in it ( training hike) and she said it was far more comfortable and easy to carry. IMO, there is not one pack for everyone that does everything no different than one boot, or one tent, but what the heck do I know. There are a lot of great specialized packs out there.

I just bought two pairs of BD Guide Gloves for my wife, anyone using these? I think BD makes a warmer glove however I got these for $70.00 ea. so I thought that I would give them a try. What warm gloves would you suggest?

http://www.mchalepacks.com/ultralight/detail/UnLtd.htm Essentially, this is a newer version of the one I use. Mine is a 43-43-43 with extension. Mine is an older version which I bought used from one of the moderators on this board. However old, outdated and not custom made for me, it still far out performs any pack that I have tried. When I purchased it I had 7 packs to test against including a Cilo, BD, Arx Bora 80, Gregory Baltora and Denali since so many liked the Denali, 2 different Osprey's and a few others. None of them including the Gregory Denali even came close to carry the loads like the Mchale. All I can tell you is that whatever weight you carry in the Mchale will feel at least 50% less than ANY other pack. I would think, if price is an issue, that Dan could make one for you in less expensive materials like they used to be done, that is, without the Dyneema and Spectra etc.... You have to remember that a Mchale pack does not cut any corners and they are simply made so far superior and made the best it can be which one would expect to cost more. With a Mchale, you will be buying a pack that will last a lifetime. I see so many that suggest this pack and that pack for load hauling and I can guarantee you that if they actually tested all of these packs against a Mchale the Mchale will win every time. Most of the packs I see recommended for loads are simple alpine type packs. But the fact is they don't even come close for that purpose. I see folks all the time buy the less expensive packs and think that they are better, however, one only knows what they know!