um, I'm not a troll, unless 5'8" 138lbs is a typical troll stature. If it is, then yes, I suppose I am one. DT night? Drytool night? Problem is I wasn't kidding when I refered to myself as a newbie: I dont' have ice tools, crampons or an 11 m rope, nor have I ever been ice climbing, only regular rock climbing. I'm not saying that I wouldn't love to try, or at least see how it's done, but I don't want to represent myself as anything other then a beginner.