gapertimmy - you're cletus's friend right.  i'm zeedashbo or z-bo from the tgr boards.  i've been talking about getting to the rim for a while now. i was wondering if you could help me with some beta. 
  
what's the access like without sleds?  how long/arduous?  how far from bend?  is it worth going now, or should i head down a little later say next month?  any help would be helpful.