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One thing to consider is that an M8 is not really 5.11 or whatever people say. It is only a grade that is suppose to feel like a 5.11 so... You could be doing the same route in the summer and could be a 5.10 or 5.8. but thats why they are mixed is because the route isn't climbed durring the summer. So grades are subjective

Depends on what type of Ice climber you want to be. If you plan to climb M8's and W1 6+ on the same route leather boots make the difference. Personally I think plastic boots climb better on ice once you start doing mixed climbing that’s when leathers make the entire difference. Leather boots are light and not as warm and have more dexterity on the top of the boot. Plastics are heavier warmer and have stiffer tops further more support around the ankle hence you can do French technique as well leathers . Plastics are better for winter climbing in the cascades and overnighters. Leathers are better for approaches. Granted this is climbing you have to have a quiver of every thing to be good at everything. Plastics can do everything well not great so if you want to get one boot for now and call it good I would recommend plastics. If not I would get a pair of Scarpa Vegas and what leather fits your foot. Trango extremes are good Kayland and Salomon are making great leather boots. That’s my two cents. If you have any questions Pm Me. Go Climb

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