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  1. We have been been hauling climbers out of that area for several years now. Untill this past year there have been no known fatalities. Now that the area has become so popular I believe this could change. I am happy to report that most people are willing to do anything to help with a rescue. For this we appreciate the help. Good information relayed to the 911 dispatch center is the best way to start a rescue. With this information we can call for specialized help. Sometimes this can be most important in saving lives. Time is critical in any trauma situation. Thanks for your thoughts fleblebleb.
  2. I have been watching the posts the last few days on the so called dummy rescue. It is time a local FF-EMT who has been involved in both the Kropp body recovery and the dummy rescue voices an opinion. So far this year there have been 4 serious accidents in the Frenchman Coulee area. One death,one life threatning, two non life threatning with serious injuries. If training is an issue then it may be wise to look at yourselves! During rescues I have had to scream and yell at so called profesional climbers who were still overhead on the rocks climbing during patient assesment and packaging. Over the years I believe that most rescues that I have been involved with have been created by human error. One rescuer gets a minor injury and all of a sudden we are poorly trained? I have had a firefighter injured by falling rock dislodged by a blackhawk helicopter during a patient lift. These are not games we are playing. All this by a local volunteer fire department that has no high angle rescue training. We can only deal with your injuries if you are on the ground. Actual high angle rescue personnel could take another 2 hours to get on the scene. I take pride in the service I can provide injured climbers. It is true some of us need additional training in some areas and a little more excercise wont hurt. Before you start bad mouthing us, stick around the next time dust-off hovers overhead, you may change your opinion. Safety is always a top priority in this buisness. I commend Erdan on dealing with the experience of losing a friend. May you have a safe adventure! I feel better now that my opinion has been made. I do hike in the area just to check trails and to keep myself updated on the latest improvements. I like chatting with climbers about the area so if you see a white fire helmet feel free to introduce yourself. I would rather meet you this way than as a patient..
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