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  1. Thanks for the replies, as I understand it anything with largish bumpy fleece on the inside and very breathable smooth skin on the outside is heading toward the right sort of design for a pertex with pile style of garment.
  2. Thinking of using my pertex equilibrium windshirt with pile fleece as a homemade pertex pile combo. What I think I want I can't find, a simple fleece with pile on the inside and smooth surface on the outside. I have a montane extreme smock and it's pile is made in this way and it works very well. I suspect pile on both sides or only on the outside would not work as well moving moisture inside out. Also Is waffle fleece better or worse than pile? Also Dont want any sort of wind blocker fleece. Alternatively I am using brynje mesh thermal top which works very well under the windshirt. Would I be better off to double up on the brynje mesh, if colder, or in more rain ? That seems a lighter option. Thanks
  3. I ordered that pile brown bear jacket in the link above, for the heck of it, fit is terrible, sending it back.
  4. Why my interest in pertex pile? I have been out in winter with wet clothes from sweat and rain. And got very cold and even when moving generating body heat, hard to impossible to dry out. Cold even with a synthetic puffy on. It seems the cold and wetness does not leave even with good quality layers, when it sets in. So I bought montane extreme bibs and smock with heavy pile for winter usage, it is heavy and bulky. However with this and a Brooks range bothy bag I figure hypothermia is almost impossible for me in the cascades. That pile really sucks wetness from the body, must experience it to understand. For me I am sweaty when going uphill, even if cold , so I carry the montane over clothes in the pack until needed. However would like to find something a little lighter and hill hiker friendly in weight and bulk. Less in the pack, more on the body. Thinking of all the options of pile and pertex , buffalo stuff, etc. There are endless possible combos.
  5. I may be wrong about the smooth face outside helping to move water away, verses a fuzzy outside face ? In any case a smooth outside face will help prevent major water absorption in rain. So this is the reason for this design with pertex I think. If one was using a waterproof breathable shell then may want fuzz on outside face.
  6. https://www.trailspace.com/gear/u.s.-military/ecwcs-gen-ii-brown-bear-jacket/ Function verses style? The jacket above looks to be all heavy function. As far as I know the proper pile is the heavy pile on the inside and smooth face on the outside. In this way the pile points on the inside wick water away and the fuzzy air pockets keep a dry microcliment on the skin, if the hiker is generating heat. The smooth face outside helps move water away , the pile yjacket should be very breathable. So far I have not found a modern pile only shirt which is climber or hiker orientated, with this type of construction. If I was going to make a pile pertex layering system it would be a wind shirt for walk in, with or without a base layer. Then a separate hooded pile shirt, either micro pile or heavy pile. Then mix and match as you like. Can use/carry either heavy pile shirt or light one as needed. The vent zips of pile shirt and wind shirt should match up. Many possible designs for venting. This pertex pile layering system should be good for most conditions while moving in bad weather. I am surprised no one is making this system. Maybe weight savings is not there?? By the way pertex equlibrium fabric as a wind shirt is very breathable and comfortable on the skin, it as comfortable as a base layer.
  7. Ok I got a Brooks range 4 man bothy bag. Used it some in winter wa state in north cascades. In winter got it out at mt Baker ski area , got in it by myself with very warm clothing no bivy sack with foam pad, didn't know the temperature. Cozy warm, i actually dozed a little , for the time i was in there the consedation was very little. Another time i got into it during winter up at church mountain with the partner, it seemed ok enough for emergency overnight for both of us. For me it is better than a bivy sack in nasty alpine irainy snowy conditions. It seems much warmer than a bivy sack. With it and very warm clothing a emergeny overnight is doable. Also it is good for breaks in nasty conditions. The only other product that i may consider instead would be a blizzard survival tube or bag. If one is lower down a tarp with fire may be better for a aemergency but getting a fire going is often very difficult A 4 man bothy bag for 2 people is a good way to go for emergency overnight shelter in winter alpine conditions with warm clothing. I either carry my bothy bag or a tarp with some sort of bivy sack with fire starter on winter day trips. If a chance of being caught out up high in winter conditions the 4 man bothy bag is the best option for lightweight for two people. The Brooks range bothy bag is described as breathable fabric with vents. This seems true to me as the consendation in it didn't seem bad, hardly any. It is hard to find a bothy made with breathable fabric, sadly Brooks range is out of business. If can find a bothy made with breathable fabric with good vents , that is worthwhile for possible overnight.
  8. review Sleeping bag for the cascades

    I was looking at the feathered friends website , found the new Tanager sleeping bag. If I was going to do it all over again I likely would get the Tanager, for spring summer fall in the western cascades alpine. In fact with the overstuffed Vireo, I in fact have a bag like the Tanager bag. I favor the longer size to pull myself inside for colder weather. Control warmth with the jacket. I also use a SOL breathable bivy sack, it also works to control warmth. The advantage of no zipper is the lightest weight and bulk in a sleeping bag. Note, you really should also have a hooded puffy light to heavy depending on temp, most people carry one anyway, and/or a warm sleeping head cover. http://featheredfriends.com/tanager-cfl-ultralight-sleeping-bag.html
  9. question Dry treated ropes?

    As I understand it, on dry treated rope, the treatment on the surface of the rope wears off with usage on rock, the dry rock rubs off the treatment. The dry treatment can be very important for alpine climbing , especially ice climbing. Air below freezing temp but the rope gets wet with a drip or water running inside or over ice etc. The rope can turn into a ice encrusted thread. Not much reason to have a dry treated rope for dry rock usage, ie most of the treatment rubbed off when you need it. Buy and save your dry treated ropes for those conditions when you may really need it.
  10. review Sleeping bag for the cascades

    I have and like the ff vireo. I am 5ft 10inch tall and got the the longest size so can scrunch inside it totally for colder weather. I have used the ff Helios down jacket with it. I use a tarp and a SOL breathable bivy sack with it. I am a cold sleeper and often sleep around 5 to 7 grand feet summer alpine-for me this works well. I have recently had a few more oz added to the upper half of the bag. For early spring and late fall the bag will likely be too light unless your a very warm sleeper. I must say that it is my go to bag for summer alpine, I suggest getting the longer size and over stuff the upper half if need more warmth. In any case you cant go wrong with any ff product.
  11. idea Best clothing for cold, wet weather?

    Just a note, I have been thinking of getting a item or two of new climbing clothing. It is diificult for any one type of gear selection to work for everyone and siituation because every person has a different body type, mindset, type of activities etc. I have been thinking of getting a pile pertex jacket for awhile , but for my body type and the bulk of my outdoor activity and what i prefer, i decided on a new synthetic jacket. Why? I rarely hike in very nasty cold maratime weather if i more so did my next selection would be different. Also I tend to be hot when I hike, and I like to be cool so I have the least amount of clothing while moving. Even in winter in dry weather I often have a single thin layer top and bottom. If raining or snowing then often two layers. For me pile pertex ( while moving working hard) would be used in the most horrible cold wetish conditions moving uphill or in stop and go situations (pitched climbing) or moving slowly downhill in better weather, but still cold. I still want some lighter pile pertex gear someday but my money is better spent elsewhere at this time. Most often these days i go in good or semi good weather I use very light layers while moving and a slingle over layer for camp, stops and for emergency.. Note, I hike nuke hot and sleep ice cold, these days I mostly hike recent years and sometimes do easy scrambles. I dont look for bad weather. So what I am thinking of at this point is a Nunatak PCT jacket. With a waterproof outer fabric, I won't carry a extra water proof most trips depending on forcast. I will size it long and warm for suitable emergency usage. Weight at around a pound, slightly bulky. Part of my sleep system with light down bag. The next buy i am thinking of someday is a light pertex pile bib from buffalosystems. Teclite bibs. Which for me should be a upgrade for certain situations for legware. They also should be good for most bad weather. Note, If you sweat a lot goretex can be a sweatbox. If you run cool and sweat little, goretex can be ok. If you sweat, pertex (or something simular) may be better in most conditions.
  12. idea Best clothing for cold, wet weather?

    Yeah good pile with a windshirt is the best way to go , fleece is not as good, is fleece good enough???? I dont know, a wind shirt with fleece is easier and cheaper to find. The montane extreme smock and bibs , they just keep you warm and dry, just pulls the wetness away. It really works for most nasty conditions, it may start to fail in monsoon rain conditions after awhlie, but a rainshell may fix that.
  13. idea Best clothing for cold, wet weather?

    I dont go out much during nasty cascade weather. When I do, usually it is a day trip in winter. The worse I dealt with is rain going to snow when going up higher with wind. Also I have been out a few times in winter in the very cold windy white mountains in the the north east. I have found most waterproof breathables in time saturate with water inside out and outside in, if in rain and wet snow long enough. It takes much body heat to dry out saturated clothing. I have had my clothing saturated wet and a good synthetic puffy over it all , and feeling very cold, and very glad to be on a day trip. I have found couple of ways to deal with this situation. One way is to use waterproof non breathable outer clothing, or breathable rain gear that does not hold much water inside it . Hike with minimal under clothes. When at camp. Shake out shell gear and hang up or put away somehow, this shell gear is not saturated , since it is not permable. Put on warm camp clothes and keep these dry. In morning put on shell gear and start moving and hiking again to be warm. Other way is pile pertex method or (wind shirt with fleece). Even though pile pertex will get wet in time. The pile next to skin will wick away water from the skin to keep you warmish and dryish. At camp it would best to have a OVER rated sleeping bag and a semi breathable (something like goretex in effect) inner bag to go inside the sleeping bag to prevent saturating the down sleeping bag with water. This will enable you to safely dry yourself out in a few hours. I do not favor wool anything it's too slow to dry out, most any synthetic is good, no wool socks or gloves for me either, they rarely dry out, where as sythetic items are usually dry in a few hours. If raining really hard can throw a rain jacket over the pertex. If the rain stops or mild enough body heat can dry out the pile while hiking. In any case have a good shelter with a sleeping bag at least 20 degrees over rated for expected tempature , along with a semi breathable membrane on the insiide. The down can pass a slow amount of moisture over time with a warm body inside. One may be able to use a SOL breathable 5oz bivy sack for this usage but I have not tested it. I have used a stephensons warmlite sleeping bag which has this semi breathable inside fabric built in, works very good. Why isn't this copied?? I have been out in my stephensons bag in winter and very wet, After warming up I would fan the extra wetness to the outside out the top of bag and after a few hours be bone dry. The goose down perfectly fine. Best to test such things out in a safe situation.
  14. idea Best clothing for cold, wet weather?

    Great write up. Some thoughts. Police strength pepper spray can be up to 5 times stronger than bear spray, The gel spray may be better than fogger? I like using a wide close cell foam sleeping pad. I set up my pack to carry it on the outside on the side , vertically. Carried like this it is not so much a pain in brush , dont need a ground clothe. If on a budget any larger silnylon tarp works well as a shelter for most mild weather. I have a 10ft square tarp with ultra light lines, 6 stakes , less than 1lb 7oz. Use trecking poles to set up. Use head net and net clothes or regular clothes for bugs. (Note, a larger flat tarp can be used in bad weather with knowledge, can fold it in a pyramid shape, or bring all sides to the ground, or if in snow dig in, etc. If tarp is small, set up options are less, I suggest a bit larger flat tarp for safety) There are good tarp tents and shaped tarps on market, many made in the usa by cottage industry. Check them out online. I recently picked up a black diamond beta light tarp shelter for worse weather. 1.5 lb including stakes and guylines for two people, packed size same as water bottle, I shall see how it works. Feathered freinds jackets are great. Use mine for good weather forecasts. If on a budget any lightish jacket will do. On a budget thin nylon chino stretch pants work very well. For just in case rain gear "Rain O2" works great, but not very tough for brush, however nothing is lighter or more breathable, and they are fairly cheap. I bring the jacket for good weather forecasts, the pants likely too fragile to bring unless staying on trail. Reactor stove is great for melting snow, other wise any quality canister stove works great, a cheap one should work fine if on budget. The breathable SOL bivy sacks work great with sleeping bag under a tarp if want aditional protection. Can carry with you when leave base camp. Any quality 20 to 30 degree sleeping bag works for summer apline and a bit into fall and spring. Geigerrig water bladder system with filter is the best/lightest water system I have found for me. Lately I have been exploring pile pertex clothing for truly nasty weather. I have the montane extream smock and bibs, I use them as over clothes for winter , they are heavy and bulky but the the best I have found for drying you out warmth. Too heavy for hiking in , unless very cold. Im thinking of trying lighter weight pile pertex clothing some day. One could use a wind shirt, and wind pant with fleece or pile thermal under with similar good effect, if on budget. Good day !!
  15. To live is to climb. Don't F up!! https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=5fa_1512223489 Imagine this in bad weather.
  16. Water Filtration: is it necessary?

    If interested, some trail and home remedies for intestine bugs, or food poisoning etc. Non herbal tea, green tea is the best, make it strong and hot, keep drinking until feel better, strong like four tea bags in a cup. (Note: Drink tea like the locals when overseas for your belly. ) Mainly for food poison, but helps for critters. Activated charcoal, little capsuls , can find in health food stores, very good for food poisoning or other poisoning, but even helps against the critters. I carry some every hike. NOTE , Activated Charcoal will absorb out medications as well. For intestine critters certain herbs or herbal tinctures. Primarally Black Walnut hulls, Wormwood and Cloves, take as directed. For critters, not for food poisoning. ( One can take a one time dose of tincture one teaspoon/tablespoon on empty stomach , but likely to get VERY stomach sick from such strong treatment, may do a couple days if feel the need.) Stomach or intestine viruses, can try food grade iodine in water and drink. May also work for other bugs, iodine is used to treat water, same idea but inside your gut. For critters. If you do such treatments suffering likely to be much reduced. As compaired to doing little to nothing conventinal treatments. Likely to be feeling well in few hours to a day or so, verses much longer. Dont forget these treatments or suffer and worse yet unable to move yourself effectivly. A most powerful quick acting treatment mainly for food poisoning but will help with critters. Take activated charcoal powder, remove from 5 to 10 capsuls , place into cup. Add in green tea, make it strong, bitter strong, add in boiling hot water, let steep around 5 to 10 minutes stir every now and then . Cool enough with cold water to be drinkable. Stir and drink this until you feel better, if you puke it up no worry keep drinking, do more cups if needed. This is not for unknown chemical poisoning but will work well with most anything else. This can take a sick like your dying event, to feeling much better, IF done quick enough.
  17. I think most of us solo 3rd to 4th class rock at times, or get on steep snow etc .Often enough on poor quality rock or soft snow etc . At some level there is no โ€œthemโ€ and โ€œusโ€ it is only us. Even just hikers get on sketchy ground. Best wishes and a prayer.
  18. Pushing one's limits is very personal as my limits these days are "bottom feeder low" compaired to most. A top climber in form, their limits can be much above the average. In any case fame is fleeting , I personally strive for boring climbing stories and suffer the weight and expense of an inreach. Bad luck with weather or bad luck in general can do in even the most cautious climber or hiker. Wish for the best...
  19. I used this setup a lot for the last two summers, late spring to early fall. Worked well, most of the time did not need the weather protection due to good weather forecasts. The few times the weather was mildly bad it worked great. The nice thing is being in the back country and while looking for a camping spot this kind of set up is a lot more easy to find a place to camp, most of the time. Uneven ground is no problem the covered space is so large that one can place the center of the tarp on a rocky spot or lumpy area and have enough of two spots for two people to lay down. It works pretty well on sloping ground, it works well with the door opening sideways to the orientation you are laying. Several times I used this setup where it would be very difficult to use a floored tent shelter. It does cover a lot of area, but this has not been a problem to date for me as the sides tend to go over objects. I personally like to use a closed cell foam pad that is fairly large as my pad / ground cover 24" by 70". One can use a pad inside the bivy sack or a ground cloth of some sort according to personal preference. I had only a few slight storms in this setup, once we had a good forecast to do the Ptarmigan Traverse last summer. But Right at the middle we had a mild wind storm of around 30mph winds. We ran out of time and camped on a very rough rock section that was sloping, impossible to use a tent on that spot, we would have had to camp on snow if had a tent. We had our heads uphill and the doorway to the side of our sleeping orientation. At that time I had a 8x10 ft tarp. The wind roared somewhat that night and the tarp flapped like crazy but we were fine... This type of shelter gives a different experience, which can be interesting in of itself..
  20. Check them out when they are in Costco, they are made of nylon and spandex, super thin and light and fairly tough. They are a great lightweight hiking or climbing pant for uphill cold weather approaches and for in general cooler weather, in hot weather I prefer shorts or zip offs. They shed light rain and dry very fast, the material they are made of seems like magic to me, (but I have not experienced much of the higher end pants from climbing companies). They are almost like long underwear for your legs in function, but are in pants form with pockets. They do not have lower leg zippers but are stretchy enough to pull over boots. I had leg zippers installed on a pair. If you tend to run warm to hot while moving give them a try, around 20 bucks at Costco when in stock, they should be back in this spring sometime. Dan
  21. A basic two trekking pole setup I use most of time. I usually put the front pole upside down, pole tip up through tie in loop. Other pole the tip down, the pole up under center of tarp. Depending on weather the outer sides can be up and airy or down low for bad weather. If bad weather try put the open front on other side of the direction of wind. One can drop the open front down low , even down to the ground if weather is really bad and if tarp big enough. However I mostly use this set up as a fair weather shelter low chance of rain, as normal with most hill walking. But it works great for rain with bivy sack (with milder winds), but take extra care not camp in low areas(flooding). The larger tarp gives extra protection. This setup is far better than a tent when looking for back country campsites. This setup is not for if expecting very bad weather. When leaving camp leave or bring trekking poles as desired.
  22. Is nw hikers website down??

    Ok nw hikers is back, the global conspiricy against me is illusionary .. ๐Ÿ˜
  23. Is nw hikers website down??

    Curious ? is nw hikers website down now?
  24. Is nw hikers website down??

    Just wondering if it is censorship or coincidence? Since this is "spray". Question?? Can mankind handle democracy and real free speach? Or only a type of republic///dictatorship and controlled illusionary free speach??? Sadly i would have to bet on the 2nd choice , and it is a choice.
  25. Water Filtration: is it necessary?

    If you decide to fliter, a Geigerrig pressurized bladder with a filter, (I use a Sawyer) has an almost zero pentily in weight time and bulk. System works good just lube the fittings with dielectric grease and an extra fitting just case one breaks. Time to fill bladder is exactly the same, time to drink the same, time to fill cook pot a bit more , extra weight only a few ozs. Extra bulk , about the size of a fist. Dan