I like FOXNews, but... in Spray Posted June 20, 2008 "If you have possibly made a mistake, why guarantee that you made a mistake by quitting early. We are at a real turning point and you all want to cut and run. I have to ask why? Is it to ensure that your party looks good in comparison? Because both parties are so morally decrepit and despicable that they warrant no credence from anyone." I'll take your quote and raise ya! "It was always up to the iraqi people and that has not, and will not change. Doesn't matter if we stay 10 years or 100 years." This may be the first time anyone has quoted themselves on cc.com d Here is a little hint: The Iraqis dont want us to leave. I guarantee that if Obama becomes president, they will beg him for more time. The Iraqis only do this to save face. Afterall they are still Muslims. They must of course hate their oppressive big brother from the West. It is the same way that Canada bitches about us having a big military but secretly taking solace in that fact; knowing full well that is the only thing keeping them from becomming anhilated. If I truly thought the Iraqis thought they could handle it and wanted us to leave; sure, lets go. But I honestly know that they are not ready and they know it too. They are having a hard enought time with infrastructure rebuilding with us helping them fight their battles. Imagine when a larger percentage of their manpower is dedicated to security and even less to construction. Given the fact that they are still far less adept at security than we are, they would be lucky just to hold what they have; let alone actually make progress in the rebuilding as terrorists cause more damage to the infrastructure.