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1. No. This wasn't really part of my argument.( See my comment about not being able to form rational thoughts... ) 2. Avatar? yes. But I base my conclusions on thought, not a big mouth.

Actually, from having waded through your posts the last two years (almost 7000 piles of crap; I'm assuming you're on the quantity =quality plan), I think I do know the real situation (you're a dip-shit!)

Well, I'm not really making fun of you, just pointing out how it seems like you can't form a rational conclusion. You seem to rely upon insults and threats. If you think this is funny/sad/insulting, you just got a taste of "looking in the mirror"

Ray, your retorical skills and amazingly sharp reasoning never fail to amaze me. I never knew there where such dumb-shits out there!

ya'll should note wind chill is a measure of how cold it feels to a warm human body, not a solid piece of rock or ice already at ambient environmental temperature (a.e.t.). The wind chill factor essentially describes how the skin is cooled more quickly with a wind than without (duh!). So something that's already at the a.e.t. will experience no cooling effect from the wind. In fact, something below a.e.t. will experince a wind warming effect! Surface moisture also plays a role, but not nearly as much as.... also, i'd agree that it best to be adventuresome and go back home only when you see it's shitty out from personal observations.