Better climbing beta

[johnr9q@yahoo.com]

I have been climbing for a long time and have compiled alot of

information, that is not in the guidebooks, on routes I have done. I

am considering developing a website that would make this info

available free to anyone. I would want help from other climbers to

provide me with route information on routes I have not done. My

specific experience is all over Calif but the site could include the

entire US if I got help. It would be in a narrative format and address

issues such as: alternate choices on the route, what's the specific

nature of climbing on each section of the route (bolted sport,

friction, crack etc), the quality of the bolts or fixed pro on routes

that have installed pro, the length of the route and each pitch,

rapelling info and the quality of the rappel anchors, how to find the

route, quality of the route, sun exposure, some specific pro placement

suggestions. It would be a narrative that would start at the bottom of

the route and describe all aspects of the route to the top. A couple

questions: Are there

others that have already done this? Anyone have specific ideas or if

something like this would be useful. Please post here or email me at

johnr9q@yahoo.com, Thanks

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[Drederek]

A large part of climbing is the adventure. Why do you want to take more out of it? Maybe you can climb these routes for me and tell me what a good time I had! I think your idea is not that good. If you want to do some service work for climbers join the access fund or organize a crag cleanup or a trail rebuild. Just my two cents.