LuckyMike Posted October 18, 2007 Posted October 18, 2007 I ended up ordering a Valandre shocking blue and and Marmot Couloir to do a comparison. The Valandre's material is much softer and the bag very roomy. The one issue, which may not be an issue, is the Valandre doesn't seem as lofty as the Marmot bag and when you press on the down it compresses very easily, pretty much as if there was no down in the bag. I would think that having a bag that compresses easily is good but it's rated for cooler temps then the Marmot and doesn't seem like it has as much loft, is this normal, better, worse, etc? Quote
hydroman Posted October 18, 2007 Posted October 18, 2007 See my comments from this post. You are seeing what I saw. That being that the Valandres, while super well made bags are over rated temp wise. A similar rated WM or FF bag will likely be warmer (and a few ounces more becuase of the added down that makes it accurate to it's rating). Valandre is shooting for the lightest possible bags on the market but seem to sacrifice temp rating to brign the weight down. Again, not knocking the craftsmanship just the numbers/weights/ratings. See my comments from this post. You are seeing what I saw. That being that the Valandres, while super well made bags are over rated temp wise. A similar rated WM or FF bag will likely be warmer (and a few ounces more becuase of the added down that makes it accurate to it's rating). Valandre is shooting for the lightest possible bags on the market but seem to sacrifice temp rating to brign the weight down. Again, not knocking the craftsmanship just the numbers/weights/ratings. http://cascadeclimbers.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=734030&page=0#Post734030 Quote
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