I ended up ordering a Valandre shocking blue and and Marmot Couloir to do a comparison. The Valandre's material is much softer and the bag very roomy. The one issue, which may not be an issue, is the Valandre doesn't seem as lofty as the Marmot bag and when you press on the down it compresses very easily, pretty much as if there was no down in the bag. I would think that having a bag that compresses easily is good but it's rated for cooler temps then the Marmot and doesn't seem like it has as much loft, is this normal, better, worse, etc?