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hmm.. Even i am going to use the boots in kind of not very cold temperature range, I have quite a cold feet due to bad circulation plus low blood pressure. (maybe bloodpressure is not the one that results cold feet) I actually had Asolo Evoluzion shell + AFS 8000 for two years for ice climbing and all-round temperature in winter and wet Autum. But i sold it becuase it had too stiff ankle for walking and clunky for me since I bought one size bigger one than what i should've bought. This boots was always warm and durable. Even used around 55'F, but never hot, always warm. Not sure about what to do! plastic boots?(even considering other koflach boots like Artic EXPE or Vertical) OR Leather Boots? hmmmmmmmmm

I am considering buying Salomon Pro Ice or Koflach Degree since my boots are gone with my lovely car which got stolen. (.. don't wanna get into this situation again- wake up - say good morning - and noticing my car have disappeared from where I parked.. horrible..)(anywaaay) I've tried on my friend's Salomon Pro ice, which was only walked for few hundred feets since its purchase. It fit like glove for me and I loved them even I only walked on cement sidewalk for a mile. But since this boots is quite expensive, I am also considering Koflach Degree. (I have flat feet so I have custom footbed. Nothing to worry about footbed ) I am looking for boots that I could use for : 1.occational ice climbing(front-pointing) 2.long slushy snow walking 3.sometimes just enjoy snowshoeing with my family. temperature for above activity would be around -20'F~30'F. I haven't tried on the koflach degree, but by reading many articles written on this board, the degree is the best choice for me(also cheap ) Salomon pro ice is $180 and Koflach degree is $230~250. which one for my purpose!? ADVICE PLEASE !!!