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So far only one accident has happened. The two others I would still call an incident. Once the casualties are proved I would change the wording. However, ShiniGami is, to some extend, right.

Was any of these three climbers left-handed?

If one of them was unable to climb (use the axe) and the two other decided to escort him down, that would be the case their left unnecessary weight (stuff).

Yes. Post it.

Mountaineers, Asking for the respect to the topic subject, "3 Lost on Mount Hood" and these three experienced climbers fighting for their lives is fruitless. There is an Internet Marketing technique that spammers offten use to advertise their products and links to them. There is nothing you can do about. They pretend to be one of us and get in the middle of discussions. Whenever money is the primarily goal, the importance of human lives is diminished.

Thank you. I am glade to meet (even virtually) someone who has a mountaineering relation with these guys.

Thank you for rephrasing my suggestion made yesterday. Any info about: "Snow cave and gear found near the summit. Rescuers headed up via helicopter to investigate."

Finaly!!!

That is how I thought before I found my friend dead in the mountains. I do not want to die in the mountains any more no matter what! However, I am still aware of it and accept it any time I go there. So do not confuse this with the "Vertical Limit" movie. The real mountains are not a Hollywood studio. Why would you even ask to sacrifice a new life for someone who chose to die?

...and what's that supposed to mean? What are You waiting for then? I will pray hard for you!!!

Hello Guys, Since I learned from the TV about the incident I have been looking for some updated info in any reachable source. I am not a forum person but occasionally get involved. I respect this site because it has many experienced and competent members. Unfortunately, after several attempts of reading a few posts (here) I immediately backed up. The reason was simple: too much anger, too much fight, to many inconclusive arguments. There is a lot of good stuff as well but too much work to go through. However, after reading the last comprehensive post of ryland_moore, I decided to add my input. I am well surprised how much I was able to learn from this short but well put writing, but most importantly I really appreciate his effort to reconcile the members and move the forum's focus to its initial purpose. I have only one suggestion that I believe is very important for the mountaineers with (in this case) limited experience (again, no offence) to avoid any surprises in their feature climbs: weather factor. Regardless of the weather forecast, any mountain climber should be aware of and prepare for any rapid, unexpected weather changes (including snow/icy conditions) especially on volcanoes such as Mt Hood and especially in this time of the year. The weather changes have caused many accidents because climbers were not prepared for them to occur. The climbers were not prepared mentally, gear wise, and/or even fuel/food wise to handle the stress, conditions, and possible quarantine. "Always expect the worst..." "Never count on luck." This input is not to disrespect these three experienced climbers. We don't even know what has happened up there. They may have been dead since Tuesday. My great concern is why they did not show up, did not give any sign while there was so much noise in the air from the aircrafts. I am as nervous about the whole situation as all of you. That is why I want to believe they will be found alive. As long as the weather is "feasible" the search should be continued. But as ryland_moore explained, we don't want any new disaster, any new victims, even though the search people are fully aware of that possibility and still are taking high risk. So be careful guys (the search teams) and good luck (yes in this case they need it). ...damn, this forum is fast!

The first anniversary memorial trip for John Zazzara, a mountaineer lost on Mt. McLoughlin, OR, is scheduled on Saturday, June 24, 2006. Anyone who would like to honor John and attend the trip is welcome to join us. We will meet at the trailhead of McLoughlin and start hiking at 8 am. For more information and directions visit John Zazzara’s website at: http://JohnZazzara.WorldOfAdventures.com Thank you all for coming, A friend and climbing partner of John’s Marek R. Damm

Hello everyone, We are lucky to join a year 2006. Sadly, our friend and climbing partner John Zazzara was not that fortunate. I miss him very much, and am sure many of you who knew him share my feeling. I dedicated a website in John Zazzara’s memory and perhaps you would like to drop a few words in his Guest Book about your experiences with John, or maybe have additional pictures or stories that would enrich his memorial website, or just spend a few minutes and browse the pages to learn about him. http://JohnZazzara.worldofadventures.com/ For those who did not know John Zazzara, he was a great guy, a very good friend and climbing partner sharing his mountaineering knowledge and gear with anyone. He organized enormous number of mountaineering trips and invited whoever wanted to go. He was very passionate about what he was doing. He conquered many mountains in North and South Americas as well as in Europe. His craziness to ice let him bring new mountaineers to the exciting and expending in popularity vertical ice-climbing activity. He went for many trips solo, but most often loved to climb with others. He died, however, alone on Mt. McLoughlin (OR) in June 2005. I’m going to celebrate John’s incoming birthday, which is on 16 of January, somewhere on Mt Whitney. Thanks a lot and climb safe, Marek Damm Friend of John’s