7_Mountains_5_Years

Whats the deal with those boots with build in gaitors. Are they similar to plastic boots with a built in gaitor? Are the basicly much warmer plastic boots?

Thanks alot. I hope I can get to a diffrent shop with more boots to try on. The store I went to only had the Koflachs. I was looking around and I found a prety good boot review that includes suggested foot types for a few boots. I need plastic boots though not leathers so my choices are limited. I think i'll try a pair of Scarpa Inverno's. Heres the link to the boot review, this should answer alot of questions about boots and keep people from reposting the same question: http://www.climbing.com/equipment/boots218/index1.html Thanks alot for the advice. As cool as those boots are I really don't think they fit (thanks for convincing me) and I know all too well how crappy a trip can be with out warm dry feet. This guy has warm dry happy feet: This guy doesn't : PS: Olympus Mons are sweet boots and I saw they were gauranteed to fit with foot tracing but there extremely expensive (800+) http://www.mtntools.com/cat/alpineice/boots/lasportivaolympusmonsboots.htm OH SNAP on sale. Looks like I just found a boot that fits. grrrr if i was only a size 9. new discovery… there are more than one pair of boots on sale!

I recently purchased a pair of Koflach Degre's. I when to the store to try them on with the right socks. I tried on a 12 and a 13. The 12 was a bit tight in the toes so i tried the 13's and bought them. Ive been wearing the 13's around and their still a bit narrow in the toes but i've been tolerating it but it might just be because they're my first pair of plastic boots and I don't want to walk back into the store and return them. Im pretty sure i can return them which i might. Im wondering if the koflach's are just too narrow for my feet and a 13 is alittle too big because the heel is rather loose but not too bad if i really crank down on the laces. I herd not to worry about alittle bit of heel lift. Also my toes get cold in them and its only about 10 degrees F. Should i just return them and get a diffrent boot thats wider? I was also thinking about getting diffrent liners. Ive read some about them and they say to buy your street size and then have them fitted. What if I buy the boot size, have them fitted and then ill have alittle extra wiggle room in the toes. I know the dgere liners are kinda crappy and can tell i will need new ones somewhere down the road.