Once again this Board engages wild speculation immediately following a climbing accident without knowing all of the facts. The YJT victim was an experienced climber. He was not an intermediate student leading one of his first rock climbs. From what I know, this gentleman has spent decades climbing in the Cascades. Let's wait until we know all of the facts before we pass judgment on the victim or the Mountaineers. At the moment, we are guilty of what the pschologists call "attribution bias". We tend to blame the victim in a tragedy because none of us want to believe a similar accident could ever happen to us. That's exactly the kind of thinking that leads to unsafe climbing. In the meantime, let's do something more productive like sending some good karma to the victim and his family.