Brian-boulder

The 6 cam trigger wires are still a little bit of a problem, but if you think left to right, it would be 2cams, trigger wires, trigger wires, cams, trigger wires, cams. We have found that the 6Cam is no harder to produce that a 4Cam with wider cams and 6Cams really hold well in flares(more points of contact) and uneven terrain than 4 wider cams. Other cam companies have thought of this but couldn't put six cams on without it seeming like a very wide and heavy beast.

W-Thanks for the reply. Sorry about my tone of indifference and me invalidating your comments. I absolutely did not intend to state you were an unaccomplished climber, and anyone who has completed the PO wall (i haven't) is overly qualified to give their opinion on our gear. I agree that feedback from our customers is extremely important. Our cams have been under a constant state of change from the beginning, due to constant feedback from climbers like you. We have been extremely responsive to most comments, but there is a point where we have to believe in our design, put it to market, and defend our decisions for the design that was used. Thanks for the input. PS-Our original 2Cam (red size) was specifically designed after a trip up Salathe and those dissappointing huge pin scars. The 2Cams do work really well in those enlarged pin scars where the normal pro is a bigger piton(sometimes bong!).

Have you ever ripped out a cam in sandstone? After doing so, all you see is four steaks on the sides of the crack! The 6Cam is a specialty piece but does not look, or function as freakishly as one might think. It is about the width of a normal 4 camming unit and if you look at the pictures of our cams, it is basically a 4Cam with a 2Cam sandwiched in the middle. With the wieght advantages of our cams, this peice is still light and is great in softer stone situations. In really hard stone, even a cam with minimal surface area will usually not blow out the rock, but there are many cases where the more surface area, the better. (think metolious fat cams) But if you have that much surface area, it is best to break it up into as many planes or lobes as possible to account for flares in the crack or irregular surfaces. You may not believe it, but this winter you will see these cams on many climbing shop shelves.

I apologize if you think I was spamming. I had nothing to do with the previous thread from last fall(which I just discovered in a search) and wanted to give some feedback from someone in the company. I will give no more replies if you wish, I just thought you might want some input from someone who has been intimately involved in the design of these cams from the start. The reason I believe in these cams is because they work. Period. Do they work in all situations? No. Does any cam? Again, no. I am not going to reply to every emotional and off the cuff response to these cams, but I will respond to specific questions or criticisms about our units. First, we have introduced two lines of cams, the 2Cams and 4Cams. The 4Cams are an adaptation of the 2Cam design, but uses four camming units, for those situations (flaring pin scars in granite, uneven cracks) where 2Cams are not always optimal. This allows for more variation and flares while mainting a solid placement. I really believe that our 4Cam units are some of the best out there, bar none. However, the 2Cam really excels in those situations where other cams really do not work. In some pin scars (primarily in softer rock), shallow cracks, splitter cracks, or pod placements the 2Cams will gain a solid placment where other cams simply do not go. Even Climbing magazine just stated "Nonetheless, aid climbers will find these units opening new possibilities for shallow placements." "2Cam-best shallow crack peice in review." As well, on many routes leaders have to decide if they should use a small hole for protection or as a handhold. Often, I am able to slip a 2Cam in and still leave enough room for a few fingers. As well, our 2Cam weighs about the same as a comparably sized nut. This can have far reaching affects, especially for an alpine rack where every ounce matters, and when you are able to carry active pro for the same weight, it really does help. Other notes:-We have been playing with the idea of a tapered head since the start. It seems only natural and would sit better in many pin scars. However, there are several disadvantages as well, and really limits the piece as an aid-tool. We will be introducing a second generation of cams this summer and fall which will show several changes including a softer cable and smaller sizes(really useful).(We also may be introducing a tapered head in some of our smaller sizes where machining the taper is much easier. Our larger sizes are extruded and is a barrier to tapering the head.) I hope I answered some of you questions and I know not everyone is going to love our cams. All I can state is that I do(as well as many other and very well respected climbers), and truly believe they are a positive addition to many racks. Even if you hate em, I don't care. I just hope you enjoy climbing and find protection that suits your needs. We are introducing these cams because we love climbing and think we have something really useful, not to sell poorly desigined gear that does not meet a real need.Brian-Splitter Gear

I am one of the owners of Splitter Gear and I just wanted to see if anyone had any questions or comments on our new camming units. I saw an old discussion about our cams here last fall and I had some disagreements about some of the comments on our cams and I just wanted to make myself available to answer any questions. Thanks-Brian Splitter Gear