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wilderness first aid

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i'd like to take a basic class in first aid that would cover aspects of mountaineering. not looking to spend a fortune or drive forever (live in portland area). any suggestions?

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Looks like Mazamas teaches it but there are a few pre-reqs first:

 

CPR: $30

First Aid Basics: $30

Mountaineering First Aid (MFA) : $30 for the MFA lecture series, and $16 for the MFA Lodge Weekend (tuition only, lodge and meal fees extra).

Required text: Cost: $20

 

Here's the link to their web page:

http://www.mazamas.org/education/firstaid_info.php

 

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well very few people/agencies offer wilderness first aid and I think wilderness first responder training is more than he wants at this point and will prob set him back a few hundred dollars...Ivan start with Red Cross First Aid and CPR - good course!

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The Mazamas WFA class requires CPR and First Aid as ChrisT says, but they don't require that you take it from them. Easier than trying to do both from them, as it will likely spread the whole thing out over two seasons.

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Yes you're right besides which I think they've already finished the First Aid and CPR classes for the winter. You can take it anytime from the Red Cross (I think it's cheaper too!).

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Ray, I understand the sentiment but I have taken that course twice and I did not find it to be inordinately full of BS. It is simply a classroom first aid course with a weekend outing at the end. You don't have to be a Mountaineer to take the course, there are no hoops to jump, the price was right, and I did actually learn something.

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some people are just pre-disposed to dislike both Mazamas and Mountaineers and I don't understand why...

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some people are just pre-disposed to dislike both Mazamas and Mountaineers and I don't understand why...

 

because most of them are rude, dangerous, annoying and or obnoxious in their own little way.

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yes but how's a newbie ever to become a caveman? Who else teaches the basic skills?

 

I never said don't take it. Also if you read my comments they are based on opinion. You might find them to be the best group in the world.

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well, the mazamas are full up this winter...cpr obviously i can take through a bunch of folks, but how about the wilderness end? anybody else near portland? do the mounties do any classes closer to down here?

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A good reference for specific questions is the book "Medicine for Mountaineering" published by the Mountaineers. A bit big for keeping with you, and a bit dense to sit down and read to learn about WFA, but a great reference to keep around nonetheless. There's usually a copy at used book stores. In fact, I saw a copy at Magus in the U-district a couple of days ago.

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I've taken MOFA from the Mountaineers. It's a good class, comprehensive and pretty straight forward. The mounties absence policy of no exceptions is the only downside (but understandable.) Plus, the price is right.

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The book "Wilderness 911" by Eric A. Weiss is a great book. It covers everthing a backcountry backpacker/climber would need to know; first aid supplies, drugs, treatment of specific illnesses and injuries. After reading and studing this book, I talk to doctors and they ask if I'm a RN. Your local YMCA should have CPR classes for a good price. Our hospital (The Cleveland Clinic) has classes that range from CPR to full paramedic. Check that route out.

 

The web site below is a great resource.

 

http://content.health.msn.com/health_guide_atoz

 

Steve

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The closest Mountaineers class to the Portland area would be Olympia, they offer MOFA a couple times a year, and you don't even have to be a member

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some people are just pre-disposed to dislike both Mazamas and Mountaineers and I don't understand why...

 

You don't climb do you?

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while I don't climb like you, I have made a few summits in my day and I hope to reach many more before I die.

I*love* being on top! grin.gif

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If you spent much time in the mountains you might understand the "love to hate" relationship between independent climbers and the mounties and Mazamas. Do a search on here for tons of stories of gang-roping and gaping. I personally want nothing to do with either group but can appreciate why someone may wish to go to them for instruction, camaraderie etc.

 

But then again, I am a sociopath.

 

You coming to the kegger?

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I understand the gaper factor believe me. But they also offer some good things in terms of sales, classes, etc. As for Fri...unfortunately I have no mountain porn to contribute. frown.gif

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Sales? Only Mazama sale I know of is their annual garage sale which appears to be more of a boy scout bazaar or Indiana Jones prop sale then anything I'd be interested in.

 

You don't have to contribue to the porn--you are welcome to be a voyeur.

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